Issue 17729: advocacy howto improvements (original) (raw)

Created on 2013-04-14 10:24 by georg.brandl, last changed 2022-04-11 14:57 by admin. This issue is now closed.

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msg186903 - (view) Author: Georg Brandl (georg.brandl) * (Python committer) Date: 2013-04-14 10:24
From docs@: """ The howto-advocacy is interesting. You might consider removing the following sentences, which I found personally gave me a negative impression: "python hasn't had all the publicity" to my mind gives the impression that python is not popular. "python is definitely not a toy language that only usable for small tasks". This gives to me the impression that you feel many people think it is. Section "who's going to support it?" a company needs to be able to call someone, pay for support right now, within one hour, not on a maybe basis. I feel either remove this section or suggest links to three companies providing python support. Section "python is freely available , how good can it be?" I felt what I wanted to see was not that Linux and apache are good, but why python is good. """ I think the advocacy howto was written quite a while ago and could use a makeover.
msg187381 - (view) Author: Tshepang Lekhonkhobe (tshepang) * Date: 2013-04-19 18:43
I would rather the page be removed, at least from the official docs. I wonder how useful it actually is, and as already pointed, it really feels outdated (and Apache is not kool no more).
msg187593 - (view) Author: A.M. Kuchling (akuchling) * (Python committer) Date: 2013-04-22 21:10
I suggest just dropping this HOWTO. It was written to contrast using Python with using only a low-level language such as C. Today there may still be some people arguing over whether to use a low-level or high-level language, but I think the idea of using high-level languages has certainly won out. An advocacy howto written today would be completely different. Today we're more likely to write an advocacy micro website instead of a howto, so we should just discard this document.
msg187594 - (view) Author: Tshepang Lekhonkhobe (tshepang) * Date: 2013-04-22 21:25
That's great to hear, especially coming from the author.
msg187610 - (view) Author: Roundup Robot (python-dev) (Python triager) Date: 2013-04-23 06:26
New changeset 2ddfa8dbed1d by Ezio Melotti in branch '2.7': #17729: remove the outdated Advocacy HOWTO, as suggested by the author. http://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/2ddfa8dbed1d New changeset a4804e0d4479 by Ezio Melotti in branch '3.3': #17729: remove the outdated Advocacy HOWTO, as suggested by the author. http://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/a4804e0d4479 New changeset f9a58f0203b6 by Ezio Melotti in branch 'default': #17729: merge with 3.3. http://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/f9a58f0203b6
msg187611 - (view) Author: Tshepang Lekhonkhobe (tshepang) * Date: 2013-04-23 06:47
the index file also needed changing; see attached
msg187612 - (view) Author: Roundup Robot (python-dev) (Python triager) Date: 2013-04-23 06:58
New changeset 990c1bd26ef1 by Ezio Melotti in branch '2.7': #17729: remove the Advocacy HOWTO from the index. http://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/990c1bd26ef1 New changeset a4d294539f2e by Ezio Melotti in branch '3.3': #17729: remove the Advocacy HOWTO from the index. http://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/a4d294539f2e New changeset ceb1ee4bc214 by Ezio Melotti in branch 'default': #17729: merge with 3.3. http://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/ceb1ee4bc214
msg187613 - (view) Author: Ezio Melotti (ezio.melotti) * (Python committer) Date: 2013-04-23 06:58
Fixed, thanks for noticing that and for the patch!
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