Issue 27671: FAQ: len() is still function for good reason. (original) (raw)
This issue has been migrated to GitHub: https://github.com/python/cpython/issues/71858
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| Title: | FAQ: len() is still function for good reason. | |
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| Type: | Stage: | resolved |
| Components: | Documentation | Versions: |
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| Status: | closed | Resolution: | fixed |
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| Dependencies: | Superseder: | ||
| Assigned To: | docs@python | Nosy List: | docs@python, methane, miss-islington, terry.reedy, vstinner |
| Priority: | normal | Keywords: | patch |
Created on 2016-08-03 09:01 by methane, last changed 2022-04-11 14:58 by admin. This issue is now closed.
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| File name | Uploaded | Description | Edit |
| faq-function-method.patch | methane,2016-12-26 12:00 | review |
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| URL | Status | Linked | Edit |
| PR 8432 | merged | methane,2018-07-24 06:21 | |
| PR 8577 | merged | miss-islington,2018-07-31 05:49 | |
| PR 8578 | merged | miss-islington,2018-07-31 05:50 | |
| PR 8579 | merged | miss-islington,2018-07-31 05:51 |
| Messages (7) | ||
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| msg271881 - (view) | Author: Inada Naoki (methane) *  |
Date: 2016-08-03 09:01 |
| https://docs.python.org/3/faq/design.html#why-does-python-use-methods-for-some-functionality-e-g-list-index-but-functions-for-other-e-g-len-list > The major reason is history. ... > but it’s a part of Python, and it’s too late to make such fundamental changes now. The functions have to remain to avoid massive code breakage. People seeing this answer may think "it's bad design, but remains for historical reason." But there is more positive reason why len is still function. http://effbot.org/pyfaq/why-does-python-use-methods-for-some-functionality-e-g-list-index-but-functions-for-other-e-g-len-list.htm | ||
| msg272051 - (view) | Author: Terry J. Reedy (terry.reedy) * |
Date: 2016-08-05 18:53 |
| I agree. We do not need to semi-apologize for having generic functions be builtin generic functions. | ||
| msg284023 - (view) | Author: Inada Naoki (methane) * |
Date: 2016-12-26 12:00 |
| I can't write long English document. Can I quote Guido's mail instead? | ||
| msg322721 - (view) | Author: Inada Naoki (methane) * |
Date: 2018-07-31 05:49 |
| New changeset c48e26dcadbff8620bb5881d3bd148fc8894d0ef by INADA Naoki in branch 'master': bpo-27671: Update FAQ about why len is function (GH-8432) https://github.com/python/cpython/commit/c48e26dcadbff8620bb5881d3bd148fc8894d0ef | ||
| msg322723 - (view) | Author: miss-islington (miss-islington) | Date: 2018-07-31 05:54 |
| New changeset a621f406402e05febb302cf31962e9d2d747d8f6 by Miss Islington (bot) in branch '3.7': bpo-27671: Update FAQ about why len is function (GH-8432) https://github.com/python/cpython/commit/a621f406402e05febb302cf31962e9d2d747d8f6 | ||
| msg322724 - (view) | Author: miss-islington (miss-islington) | Date: 2018-07-31 05:56 |
| New changeset 0b376eb0d63e0c51ed55c620b40edae6ded4ea48 by Miss Islington (bot) in branch '3.6': bpo-27671: Update FAQ about why len is function (GH-8432) https://github.com/python/cpython/commit/0b376eb0d63e0c51ed55c620b40edae6ded4ea48 | ||
| msg322725 - (view) | Author: miss-islington (miss-islington) | Date: 2018-07-31 05:58 |
| New changeset dc9039da239ee572eaaf56e4a026be1fc4d74e24 by Miss Islington (bot) in branch '2.7': bpo-27671: Update FAQ about why len is function (GH-8432) https://github.com/python/cpython/commit/dc9039da239ee572eaaf56e4a026be1fc4d74e24 |
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| Date | User | Action | Args |
| 2022-04-11 14:58:34 | admin | set | github: 71858 |
| 2018-07-31 07:37:40 | methane | set | status: open -> closedresolution: fixedstage: patch review -> resolved |
| 2018-07-31 05:58:14 | miss-islington | set | messages: + |
| 2018-07-31 05:56:29 | miss-islington | set | messages: + |
| 2018-07-31 05:54:27 | miss-islington | set | nosy: + miss-islingtonmessages: + |
| 2018-07-31 05:51:33 | miss-islington | set | pull_requests: + <pull%5Frequest8087> |
| 2018-07-31 05:50:33 | miss-islington | set | pull_requests: + <pull%5Frequest8086> |
| 2018-07-31 05:49:40 | miss-islington | set | pull_requests: + <pull%5Frequest8085> |
| 2018-07-31 05:49:26 | methane | set | messages: + |
| 2018-07-24 06:21:52 | methane | set | stage: patch reviewpull_requests: + <pull%5Frequest7957> |
| 2017-01-03 14:35:54 | vstinner | set | nosy: + vstinner |
| 2016-12-26 12:00:29 | methane | set | files: + faq-function-method.patchkeywords: + patchmessages: + |
| 2016-08-05 18:53:42 | terry.reedy | set | nosy: + terry.reedymessages: + |
| 2016-08-03 09:01:26 | methane | create |