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On Nov 6, 2017, at 13:37, Zachary Turner <zturner@google.com> wrote:

I’m going to spend a little time seeing if i can make the change invisible to the bots so they will continue to work as they do today. Will report back after I’ve explored that a bit

On Mon, Nov 6, 2017 at 1:35 PM Mike Edwards <medwards@apple.com> wrote:

I'm honestly not opposed to this idea. It just seems a shame to do this for purely logistical reasons if most people agree that the "right" place for debuginfo-tests is outside of the clang tree.

I totally understand what you are saying here and will just add that sometimes being part of a larger community means being willing to do things, sometimes, not exactly the “right” way, due to logistical reasons. I am not opposed to what you would like to do, I’m just furrowing my brow at the timeframe in which to do it.

That said, I'd still like to hear from ChrisM and MikeE about why it will take so long, because on the surface it seems like a low-impact move.

Past experience has taught me, anything I think is going to be simple and quick to fix, rarely ever turns out that way. While there will be a significant amount of work to change the way our bots work here at Apple, the work is not impossible to accomplish. Given the choice, I would of course prefer an approach such as Paulr has suggested. The ability to run things in parallel for a time provides for a much lower impact change on the entire community. I think this approach may also give us some time to decide where the debuginfo-test should fit in the new mono-repo. It would be a bummer to do the work necessary to make this change, only to discover we would have to do it differently in the not too distant future to accommodate the new mono-repo.

Zach, I do not want to be a blocker here. I just want to make sure we have explored all of the options to make sure we are not missing a lower impact approach. I also want to make sure we are not doing something that could wait until we migrate to the mono-repo next year.

Thanks,

Mike