Minutes 2001-12-14 from Jeremy Carroll on 2001-12-16 (w3c-rdfcore-wg@w3.org from December 2001) (original) (raw)

RDFCore WG Minutes for the Telecon 2001-12-14

Transcript: http://ilrt.org/discovery/chatlogs/rdfcore/2001-12-14 Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-rdfcore-wg/2001Dec/0094.html

EXECUTIVE SUMMARY

Syntax WD will be published. Model Theory WD to be considered for publication next time. Primer is progressing. Difference between ID and about test cases approved (in part).

DECISIONS

DECISION 2001-12-14#1 Publish syntax WD, with editorial changes. DECISION 2001-12-14#2 Test cases ID-and-about test1,error1 are approved.

ACTIONS

ACTION 2001-12-14#1 Pat Hayes Copy current editor's draft to www-archive@w3.org and tell WebOnt WG of its existence. ACTION 2001-12-14#2 Jos De Roo; Review Model Theory WD. ACTION 2001-12-14#3 Jeremy Carroll; Review Model Theory WD. ACTION 2001-12-14#4 Patrick Stickler; Review Model Theory WD. ACTION 2001-12-14#5 Dave Beckett; Get revision to be published to Eric. ACTION 2001-12-14#6 Eric Miller; Act as team contact for publication. ACTION 2001-12-14#7 Jeremy Carroll; look at #rdfms-not-id-and-resource-attr closely ACTION 2001-12-14#8 Jan Grant; look at #rdfms-not-id-and-resource-attr closely ACTION 2001-12-14#9 Aaron Swarz; Sing golden triples for us all.

1: Allocate scribe Jan Grant scribe. Jeremy Carroll to write minutes.

2: Roll Call

Present

Brian McBride Eric Miller Dave Beckett Jeremy Carroll Jos De Roo Jan Grant Frank Manola Stephen Petschulat Patrick Stickler Mike Dean Pat Hayes Sergey Melnik (late)

Absent

Dan Brickley Frank Boumphrey Ron Daniel Bill dehOra Rael Dornfest Martyn Horner Yoshiyuki Kitahara Michael Kopchenov KWON, Hyung-Jin Ora Lassila Satoshi Nakamura Pierre G. Richard R. V. Guha

Regrets

Dan Connolly Graham Klyne Aaron Swartz

3: Review Agenda No AOB

4: Next telecon - 10am Boston time, 11 Jan 2002 Agreed.

5: Review Minutes of 2001-12-07 with correction Approved. [[[ See: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-rdfcore-wg/2001Dec/0089.html http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-rdfcore-wg/2001Dec/0092.html ]]]

6: Confirm Status of Completed Actions [[[ ACTION: 2001-11-16#4 Eric Have updated copy available to group by 5PM EST Monday 19-Nov-2001

see: http://www.w3.org/2001/09/rdfprimer/rdf-primer-20011101.html

ACTION: 2001-11-16#5 Pat Post updated copy of model theory, with datatype discussion elided, for group review by Wednesday 21-Nov-2001

see: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-rdfcore-wg/2001Dec/0082.html

ACTION: 2001-11-16#9 FrankM Clarify the architectural and other broader concerns with any datatyping scheme that must be considered.

see: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-rdfcore-wg/2001Dec/0070.html

ACTION: 2001-11-30#1 Dan Connolly Review rdfs-transitive-subSubProperty test cases.

ACTION: 2001-11-30#9 Jeremy Carroll Write up XML Schema structures datatyping proposal as e-mail to group.

ACTION: 2001-12-07#1 bwm add link on wg page to primer rought working draft

see: http://jigedit.w3.org/bmcbride/WWW/2001/sw/RDFCore/Overview.html#documents

ACTION: 2001-12-07#4 Aaron Relay comments from RDFIG on difference between id and about

see:

http://www.w3.org/2000/03/rdf-tracking/#rdfms-difference-between-ID-and-abou t

see: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-rdfcore-wg/2001Dec/0084.html

ACTION: 2001-12-07#5 bwm review test cases for rdfms-difference-between-id-and-about

see:

http://www.w3.org/2000/03/rdf-tracking/#rdfms-difference-between-ID-and-abou t

see: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-rdfcore-wg/2001Dec/0091.html

see:

http://www.w3.org/2000/10/rdf-tests/rdfcore/rdfms-difference-between-ID-and- about/

ACTION: 2001-12-07#6 DaveB to flag aboutEach removal in Syntax document and bring this to the attention of the RDFIG

see: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-rdfcore-wg/2001Dec/0075.html

ACTION: 2001-12-07#8 Sergey produce new data type document by next Wednesday for review by next Friday's teleconference

see: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-rdfcore-wg/2001Dec/0065.html ]]]

So confirmed.

7: Confirm Status of Withdrawn Actions [[[ ACTION: 2001-11-30#7 Pat Hayes Write up P for inclusion in Sergey's document ]]] Not confirmed; action in open state.

8: CVS Access to W3C [[[ ACTION: 2001-11-30#3 Jan Grant Get access to test case areas of W3C site ]]] Continued.

9: Status of Primer Currently work progressing on outline. Plenty of body material already, but structure needs iteration.

10: Model Theory WD We are aiming to approve publication at the next telecon. We wish to draw the WebOnt WG's attention to the current editor's draft. (WebOnt WG Face2Face on 14th/15th Jan).

The chair noted that

the amount of WG review was disappointing
a Working Draft is a Draft.

The editor identified the following changes still to be made:

add an example
add a URI ID example
add a "changes" section (everything has changed).

ACTION 2001-12-14#5 Dave Beckett; Get revision to be published to Eric. ACTION 2001-12-14#6 Eric Miller; Act as team contact for publication.

12: Issue: #rdfms-difference-between-ID-and-about [[[ Propose the WG:

o resolves that new syntax WD resolves this issue.

o Approve test cases for this issue

See:

http://www.w3.org/2000/03/rdf-tracking/#rdfms-difference-between-ID-and-abou t

http://www.w3.org/2000/10/rdf-tests/rdfcore/rdfms-difference-between-ID-and- about/ http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-rdfcore-wg/2001Dec/0091.html ]]] DECISION 2001-12-14#2 Test cases ID-and-about test1,error1 are approved.

Test case http://www.w3.org/2000/10/rdf-tests/rdfcore/rdfms-difference-between-ID-and- about/test2.rdf was not approved because it interacts with I18N issues, that are unresolved.

13: Issue: #rdfms-not-id-and-resource-attr [[[ Propose the WG:

o resolves that new syntax WD resolves this issue.

See: http://www.w3.org/2000/03/rdf-tracking/#rdfms-not-id-and-resource-attr ]]] Some discussion, resulting in. ACTION 2001-12-14#7 Jeremy Carroll; look at #rdfms-not-id-and-resource-attr closely ACTION 2001-12-14#8 Jan Grant; look at #rdfms-not-id-and-resource-attr closely

We will try to close it next time.

14: Review test cases on para 196 [[[ ACTION: 2001-11-30#5 Dave Beckett Create test case showing that the 2nd URL in Para 196 is permitted. See: http://cvs.ilrt.org/cvsweb/redland/rdfcore/rdfms-para196 ]]]

Jos has reviewed it, ACTION 2001-12-07#3 Jeremy Review test cases on para 196 continued.

15: Datatypes General discussion.

Closing discussion

ACTION 2001-12-14#9 Aaron Swarz; Sing golden triples for us all. Frank's seasonal triple: "ho" "ho" "ho" .

Meeting closed. (Datatyping discussion continued).

16: Issue: rdfms-assertion NOT REACHED

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