Minutes 2002-04-09 from Jeremy Carroll on 2002-04-25 (w3c-rdfcore-wg@w3.org from April 2002) (original) (raw)
I am sorry this is so late. I forgot! (We might need to delay approval until next week).
BRIAN, PAT: note action 19,20,21 (yours and mine) below which Jema lost.
Decision 6 was not scribed correctly, and hence not in Jema
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Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-rdfcore-wg/2002Apr/0285.html
IRC Log: http://ilrt.org/discovery/chatlogs/rdfcore/2002-04-19
Jema action/decision summary: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-rdfcore-wg/2002Apr/0332.html
Scribe: Jeremy Carroll
Executive Summary:
Decisions:
1: Triples should be represented using correct n-triples 2: close rdfs-online-char-encoding 3: rdfs-container-membership-superProperty: there will be one 4: rdfs-constraining-containers is out-of-scope and closed 5: rdfs-subClassOf-a-Property, legal, in MT, closed. 6: Do not publish Datatyping WD at this time.
Jema noted the following actions during RDFCore WG Telecon 2002-04-19
2002-04-19#1: frankm sync up with eric concerning primer 2002-04-19#2: danb review primer, specifically schema stuff 2002-04-19#3: martyn review current primer 2002-04-19#4: pat provide MT WD for wg review 2002-04-19#5: jang review schema WD 2002-04-19#6: aaron review schema WD 2002-04-19#7: frank review schema WD 2002-04-19#8: jos review schema WD 2002-04-19#9: danb make schema WD available on Monday 2002-04-19#10: jan have test cases WD to review for Monday 2002-04-19#11: jeremy review test cases WD 2002-04-19#12: jos review test cases WD 2002-04-19#13: bwm propose how we move forward with datatyping 2002-04-19#14: danc do entailement test case for container with rdfs:contains 2002-04-19#15: danbri propose name for container-membership-superProperty 2002-04-19#16: danbri review effect _NNN-superProperty on primer 2002-04-19#17: pat respond helpfully to rdfs-subClassOf-a-Property raiser 2002-04-19#18: jan produce test case for rdfs-subClassOf-a-Property
The following actions were lost by Jema, but still in IRC log. 2002-04-19#19: brian accept chance to review charmod 2002-04-19#20: jjc review charmod by 31st May 2002-04-19#21: path review charmod by 31st May
(Exact wording of decisions:
1: Triples should be represented using correct n-triples 2: close rdfs-online-char-encoding 3: resolve that there will be common superproperty 4: agreed propsoal in agenda 15 5: agree resolution in agenda item 16 )
DETAIL
1: Allocate scribe jjc (first bit gk)
2: Roll Call
Present: Martin Horner Frank Manola Aaron Swartz Patrick Stickler Jos De Roo Graham Klyne Dan Connolly Jan Grant Ron Daniel Brian McBride Jeremy Carroll
Regrets: Steve Petschulat Dave Beckett Mike Dean Eric Miller
- 3: Introduce Observers
HP Observers:
- Andy Seaborne and three students: Alex, Olu, Tim.
4: Review Agenda
5: Next telecon 10am Boston time, 26 Apr 2002
6: Review Minutes of 2002-04-12
See:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-rdfcore-wg/2002Apr/0166.html
Approved after brief discussion.
- 7: Confirm Status of Completed Actions
Confirmed: [[[
ACTION: 2002-04-05#4 Brian sort out who will write text for updating test cases wd
ACTION: 2002-04-12#5 aaron write up datatyping use-case for Dublin Core
see: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-rdfcore-wg/2002Apr/0168.html
ACTION: 2002-04-12#7 jjc post message to rdfcore with motivating example for dark triples?
see: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-rdfcore-wg/2002Apr/0178.html
]]]
8: outstanding issues (See agenda for list)
9: Review of CharMod last call #2
2002-04-19#19: brian accept chance to review charmod 2002-04-19#20: jjc review charmod by 31st May 2002-04-19#21: path review charmod by 31st May
Strong preference for review to be significantly earlier.
10: Schedule and document status
Primer
2002-04-19#1: frankm sync up with eric concerning primer 2002-04-19#2: danb review primer, specifically schema stuff 2002-04-19#3: martyn review current primer
Generally favourable comments have been made.
Syntax No discussion.
Model Theory
2002-04-19#4: pat provide MT WD for wg review
By 26th April? The next WD should be the one before last call.
- Schema
2002-04-19#5: jang review schema WD 2002-04-19#6: aaron review schema WD 2002-04-19#7: frank review schema WD 2002-04-19#8: jos review schema WD 2002-04-19#9: danb make schema WD available on Monday
Last call schedule unclear. Friday 26th is last date for us to approve WD before publishing moratorium in May.
- Test cases
2002-04-19#10: jan have test cases WD to review for Monday 2002-04-19#11: jeremy review test cases WD 2002-04-19#12: jos review test cases WD
- F2F in June:
- Does the WG believe it would be good to meet,
Yes it does.
- 11: How to represent triples in documents.
DECISION 1: Triples should be represented using correct n-triples.
- 12: Datatyping WD
- Is this document ready for first publication? Are the editors agreed?
The editors are not agreed.
DECISION 6: Do not publish Datatyping WD at this time.
2002-04-19#13: bwm propose how we move forward with datatyping
- 13: Issue: rdfs-online-char-encoding
- Propose:
- o action Eric to update the schema file with the appropriate character encoding declaration
- o close this issue
Hasty looking at file. It seems to be OK.
DECISION 2: Close rdfs-online-char-encoding.
- 14: Issue: rdfs-container-membership-superProperty
DECISION 3: rdfs-container-membership-superProperty: there will be one.
Discussion included:
- entailment works one but not the other.
2002-04-19#14: danc do entailement test case for container with rdfs:contains
- rdf:member or rdf:contains
2002-04-19#15: danbri propose name for container-membership-superProperty 2002-04-19#16: danbri review effect _NNN-superProperty on primer
15: Issue: rdfs-constraining-containers [[[ Propose:
o the WG resolves that expressing such a constraint is beyond the scope of RDFS. Such functionality belongs with more powerful ontology languages such as daml+oil and owl.
o The WG notes that DAML+OIL can express this constraint as described in:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-rdfcore-wg/2002Apr/0106.html
o The WG closes this issue
]]]
DECISION 4: proposal agreed.
16: Issue: rdfs-subClassOf-a-Property [[[ Propose the WG resolves:
o an instance of the Property class may have an rdfs:subClassOf property
o the meaning of such a property is defined by the model theory
o this issue be closed ]]] DECISION 5: proposal agreed.
Discussion that resolution is unhelpful.
2002-04-19#17: pat respond helpfully to rdfs-subClassOf-a-Property raiser 2002-04-19#18: jan produce test case for rdfs-subClassOf-a-Property
- 17: daml:collection Small amount of discussion but time runs out.
Meeting adjourned.
18: Issue: rdf-charmod-resources Not reached.
19: Suggest after hours discussion of dark triples Suggestion was followed (profitably!).
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