Minutes of 2003-10-03 RDFCore WG telcon from Dave Beckett on 2003-10-03 (w3c-rdfcore-wg@w3.org from October 2003) (original) (raw)
2003-10-03 RDFCore WG meeting
Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-rdfcore-wg/2003Oct/0036.html
Transcript: http://ilrt.org/discovery/chatlogs/rdfcore/2003-10-03
swebscrape:N3:python:http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/RDFCore/scripts/minutes2n3.py date: 2003-10-03
2: Roll call Dave Beckett (scribe) Jeremy Carroll Dan Connolly Mike Dean Pat Hayes Graham Klyne Frank Manola Brian McBride (chair) Eric Miller Patrick Stickler
Regrets: Dan Brickley Jan Grant Jos De Roo
3: Thanks
Brian expressed thanks for all those busy helping work on the LC2 issues in public and private "they know who they are"
4: Review Agenda AOB: DTD Validation of RDF/XML (FrankM) AOB: XML Schema Review (EricM)
5: Next telecon 10 Oct 2003 1000 Boston Time
Chair Brian McBride
6: Minutes of 26 Sep 2003 telecon as revised
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-rdfcore-wg/2003Sep/0267.html as revised http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-rdfcore-wg/2003Sep/0273.html approved
7: Confirm Status of Completed Actions
All done
8: Confirm Status of Withdrawn Actions
Noted 20030926#8 withdrawn, no action needed.
9: Status of Misc Actions
10: Update on last call comments
pfps-04 and pfps-05 both on entailment merged into one last call objection with PFPS's agreement.
11: Literals must be in NFC
Proposed: Connolly/W3C To change NFC MUST to SHOULD, contingent on confirmation from I18N WG and with some editorial discretion for the editors to take advice from peers.
Seconded: Carroll/HP. Against: none: abstain: none.
ACTION 2003-10-03#1 jjc continue NFC dicussion with I18N ACTION 2003-10-03#2 jjc change concepts NFC MUST to SHOULD ACTION 2003-10-03#3 daveb change syntax NFC MUST to SHOULD
12: Meeting requirements for last call.
Outstanding objections document http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/RDFCore/objections.html
LC1 Issue xmlsch-02
Discussion of (member only) draft comments from XML Schema WG http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/2003/10/xmlschema.rdf.comments.responses.html#id2612457 and the whitespace processing xmlsch-02 issue.
A straw poll was held on the proposal by JJC in http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-rdfcore-wg/2003Oct/0003.html and did not receive strong enough support for that change. The default of no document changes on this issue remains.
ACTION 2003-10-03#4 bwm ensure last call comment disposition is up to date
"rdf:RDF should be optional" - Mark Baker http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-rdf-comments/2003JulSep/0358.html
Proposal: Beckett/ILRT To allow rdf/xml documents to start with a nodeElement production in addition to rdf:RDF.
Seconded: Carroll/HP. Against: none. Abstain: Hayes/IHMC, Dean/BBN
ACTION 2003-10-03#5 jjc check the w3c rdf validator handles omitted rdf:RDF ACTION 2003-10-03#6 daveb change rdf/xml syntax to allow nodeELement as root ACTION 2003-10-03#7 daveb add test case to test allowing omitted rdf:RDF ACTION 2003-10-03#8 frankm change primer to have an omitted rdf:RDF example
"Internal DTD Examples Invalidate the RDF/XML Documents" - Dennis E. Hamilton http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-rdf-comments/2003OctDec/0005.html
Discussion, no new information or change seen as necessary. FrankM to respond. DaveB noted http://dublincore.org/documents/2002/07/31/dcmes-xml/
"comments on 26 September version of RDF Semantics document" - PFPS http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-rdf-comments/2003JulSep/0363.html PatH has responded to all of these points
"RDF Semantics: partial review" - Herman ter Horst http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-rdf-comments/2003JulSep/0373.html PatH has adopted some wording changes to clear up things here. JJC noted that more comments may appear as this is a partial review.
LC2 review period for other groups web services - interested, nobody yet signed up to do the work xml core - met and agreed to provide responses, want 4 weeks xml schema - on agenda in WG meeting today, expect to say yes htmlwg - expect to review it, no comments on what timescale
ACTION 2003-10-03#9 ericm chase other groups on the 'heads up list' re reviews for RDF LC2 WDs
Document status and critical paths concepts - missing SOTD, no links scripts yet primer - Need to update rdf:RDF change just made and using non-validating XML parsers; will update by 6th Oct. semantics - tiny further edit needed for NFC syntax - none
Script for links http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-rdfcore-wg/2003Oct/0049.html
ACTION 2003-10-03#10 ericm produce boiler place for RDF LC2 SOTD template. If done earlier, editors will add document-specific bits. ACTION 2003-10-03#11 daveb work with danbri's script for fixing up internal references
Details: Reference urls like this (for schema): http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/RDFCore/TR/WD-rdf-schema-20030117/ Publication date (put this on the documents and in references): 10 October 2003
Docs should be ready by Wednesday 8 October 2003 Change logs should be checked that they are correct and mention non-editorial changes; ones that are visible from a test case.
A suggestion that HTML diffs from previous versions may be produced (bwm to investigate).
Proposal: Hayes/IMWC Move all 6 working drafts to second Last Call
Seconded: Carroll/HP. Against: none. Abstain: none.
Review of critical path people/groups
primer - want to see change made to rdf:RDF in syntax by daveb concepts - waiting for some i18n feedback (Martin Duerst primarily) syntax - none schema - none, we believe it is ready and unchanged semantics - done, path happy to get eyeballs JJC suggested telling reviewers looking at the current WDs to stop for now, thank them and note new LC2 WD out soon.
test cases - wording about negative entailment
ACTION 2003-10-03#12 daveb either work with jang to change the negative entailment test wording, or do it himself by monday 6th October
A new version of the LBase note will be published to go with the LC2 WDs with some small changes; it may be published with them if it is ready, not critical to go that day.
Meeting closed
13: Handling lc2 comments.
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