[Python-3000] sets in P3K? (original) (raw)

Nick Coghlan ncoghlan at gmail.com
Sat Apr 29 05:37:29 CEST 2006

Raymond Hettinger wrote:

The only bump in the road is that the {} notation is so similar to dictionaries that care must be taken to keep the two as distinct as possible.

Here's a summary of the suggestions we've seen so far for empty sets & dicts

Possibilities for an empty set:

set() - explicit, but kind of 'second-class' compared to (), [] and {} {} - most obvious option, but currently means dict() {,} - Guido's already said he thinks this is too ugly {/} - suggestive of phi, but considered too unintuitive/ugly by some

Possibilities for an empty dict:

dict() - explicit, but kind of 'second-class' compared to (), [] and {} {} - status quo, but ambiguous given the addition of set literals {:} - matches non-empty dicts by including ':' to indicate mapping

However, I'm now -0 on having a set literal at all, and it's because I believe we can solve this problem in a more general fashion that applies to more functions than just the set() constructor.

Currently, [] and () can appear both standalone or following an expression (list literals and comprehensions, and subscripting for [], tuple literals and precedence manipulation, and function calls for ())

{} however, can appear only standalone. It is not permitted for it to follow an expression. If we change that, we can use it to support an alternate invocation syntax for functions that currently expect an iterable as their first argument. "EXPR{ARGS}" would be equivalent to "EXPR((ARGS,))", with the following differences in the parsing of ARGS: x:y would be permitted, and map to a 2-tuple (x, y) x:y:z would be permitted, and map to a 3-tuple (x, y, z) x=y would be permitted, and map to a 2-tuple ('x', y) *x would be permitted, and would extend the passed in tuple with x

This could all be done in the front-end parser, with no back-end AST or compiler changes necessary (although we may decide they're desirable for optimisation purposes).

Dictionary displays would then be a strict subset of dict{EXPR} and tuple literals would be equivalent to tuple{EXPR} (although the latter wouldn't need the trailing comma for singleton tuples). List displays would generally be equivalent to list{EXPR}, except for list comprehensions, which map to list(EXPR) (as omitting the parentheses around the genexp would otherwise be illegal).

A constructor for named tuples, a clean syntax for which is the biggest hurdle named tuples face, could accept an iterable of name-value pairs, with explicit construction looking like:

result = named_tuple{x=x, y=y} return result

Unlike keyword arguments in a normal call, this would preserve the argument ordering, so we know that result.x is result[0] and result.y is result[1]

Explicitly constructed sets would look like: set() == set{} set(x) # No braced equivalent set([x]) == set{x} # Ignoring list comprehensions set((x,)) == set{x} set((a, b, c)) == set{a, b, c}

And it would work for frozenset, too:

 frozenset() == frozenset{}
 frozenset(x)                    # No braced equivalent
 frozenset([x]) == froxenset{x}  # Ignoring list comprehensions
 frozenset((x,)) == frozenset{x}
 frozenset((a, b, c)) == frozenset{a, b, c}

itertools.cycle is another possible beneficiary, as it becomes easy to cycle through a simple sequence:

cycle{1, 2, 3} # Infinite cycle through the values 1, 2 and 3

The any and all builtins also become more useful for chained 'or' and 'and' tests:

if all{x, y, z}: return if any{x, y, z}: return

Joining a known set of strings, or extend a mutable sequence also benefits:

", ".join{x, y, z} seq.extend{x, y, z}

The sundry set methods that accept iterables also benefit:

s.intersection{1, 2, 3} s.issuperset{1, 2, 3} s.update{1, 2, 3}

The question of "accept an iterable or accept *args" goes away - the obvious way to do it is to accept an iterable, and then use a braced call to conveniently invoke the call with a literal sequence instead of a pre-existing iterable.

The signatures of dict and dict.update could optionally be simplified back to accepting a single mapping or iterable, with the explicit keyword construction support being moved to the separate {} form.

The 'iterable of 2-tuples or mapping' questions can be addressed by making the keys(), values() and items() methods officially part of the definition of a mapping.

So dict.update might simplify to: try: items_view = obj.items except AttributeError: items = obj else: items = items_view() for key, value in items: self[key] = value

Cheers, Nick.

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