On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 11:29 AM, Guido van Rossum <guido@python.org> wrote:
> But what guarantee do you have that (a) the right people sign up for
> the new list, and (b) topics are correctly brought up there instead of
> on python-dev? I agree that python-dev is turning into a firehose, but
> I am reluctant to create backwaters where people might arrive at what
> they think is a consensus only because the important opinions aren't
> represented there.

If that's a concern, I'd be happy to limit the use of the new list to
"Input from other implementations needed on python-dev thread <x>".

At the moment, it's a PITA to chase other implementations to get
confirmation that they can cope with a change we're considering, so
I'd like confirmation that either:

Hm.

Maybe we can do something to change the python-dev ethics in order to alleviate the problem?

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On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 8:58 AM, Nick Coghlan <ncoghlan@gmail.com> wrote:

On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 11:29 AM, Guido van Rossum <guido@python.org> wrote:
> But what guarantee do you have that (a) the right people sign up for
> the new list, and (b) topics are correctly brought up there instead of
> on python-dev? I agree that python-dev is turning into a firehose, but
> I am reluctant to create backwaters where people might arrive at what
> they think is a consensus only because the important opinions aren't
> represented there.

If that's a concern, I'd be happy to limit the use of the new list to
"Input from other implementations needed on python-dev thread <x>".

At the moment, it's a PITA to chase other implementations to get
confirmation that they can cope with a change we're considering, so
I'd like confirmation that either:

Hm.

Maybe we can do something to change the python-dev ethics in order to alleviate the problem?

I'm skimming python-dev and read some of the discussion. The problem is when a VM-related question shows up in the message 77 of a thread that does not have anything in topic that would catch my attention. If all the interesting questions that we have to answer are in their own topic, I think it's fine to be subscribed to python-dev, provided I don't have to read all the bikeshedding.


But maybe I'm too optimistic and this is not changeable.

Cheers,
fijal