On Mar 04, 2013, at 03:40 PM, Daniel Holth wrote:

>On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 3:14 PM, Barry Warsaw <barry@python.org> wrote:
>> On Mar 04, 2013, at 03:02 PM, Daniel Holth wrote:
>>
>>>setup.py's setup(test_suite="x")... not sure if this is a distutils or
>>>setuptools feature. PEP 426 has an extension mechanism that could do
>>>the job.
>>
>> Shouldn't "testing" be a first order feature?
>
>Unfortunately there are so many potential first-order features that
>we've had to leave some out in order to save time. "How to run the
>tests" is not something that you need to know when searching PyPI for
>a distribution and its dependencies.

Although "has unittests that I can run" might be a deciding factor of which of
the many implementations of a particular feature you might choose.

Sure, but that has nothing to do with programmatic package discovery. That's something you will have to do as a person in making a qualitative decision along the same lines as API design. Flipping a bit in a config file saying "I have tests" doesn't say much beyond you flipped a bit, e.g. no idea on coverage, quality, etc. ">

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On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 3:45 PM, Barry Warsaw <barry@python.org> wrote:
On Mar 04, 2013, at 03:40 PM, Daniel Holth wrote:

\>On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 3:14 PM, Barry Warsaw <barry@python.org> wrote:
\>> On Mar 04, 2013, at 03:02 PM, Daniel Holth wrote:
\>>
\>>>setup.py's setup(test\_suite="x")... not sure if this is a distutils or
\>>>setuptools feature. PEP 426 has an extension mechanism that could do
\>>>the job.
\>>
\>> Shouldn't "testing" be a first order feature?
\>
\>Unfortunately there are so many potential first-order features that
\>we've had to leave some out in order to save time. "How to run the
\>tests" is not something that you need to know when searching PyPI for
\>a distribution and its dependencies.

Although "has unittests that I can run" might be a deciding factor of which of
the many implementations of a particular feature you might choose.

Sure, but that has nothing to do with programmatic package discovery. That's something you will have to do as a person in making a qualitative decision along the same lines as API design. Flipping a bit in a config file saying "I have tests" doesn't say much beyond you flipped a bit, e.g. no idea on coverage, quality, etc.