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On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 9:37 AM, Augie Fackler <raf@durin42.com> wrote:

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> On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 12:34 PM, Guido van Rossum <guido@python.org> wrote:

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>> On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 8:51 AM, Nick Coghlan <ncoghlan@gmail.com> wrote:

>> > On 13 January 2014 23:57, Augie Fackler <raf@durin42.com> wrote:

>> >> 1) What do we need in terms of functionality

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>> >> Best guess, %s, %d, and %f. I've not done a full audit of the code, but

>> >> some

>> >> limited looking over the grep hits for % in .py files suggests I'm

>> >> right,

>> >> and we could even do without %f (we only use that for 'hg --time'

>> >> output,

>> >> which we could do in unicode).

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>> > I think PEP 460 will have you covered there, or hopefully asciistr on

>> > 3.3+

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>> I'm confused on how PEP 460 would help -- Augie mentioned %d, which it

>> excludes.

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> Yes - not having %d makes this much much less useful to me.

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> For my part, it'd probably be fine if we could do %s (which would handle an

> RHS that was bytes, and only bytes, no handing of str or __bytes__-type

> stuff at all) and %d (with all the usual format modifiers, and would result

> in an ascii-compatible sequence of bytes all the time).

Would it be okay of instead of %s you had to use %b for those
semantics? (%d would still exist)