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I'm not sure I agree completely with this lax attitude about the contents of the docs, and especially the What's New parts of it (both Misc/NEWS and Doc/whatsnew/3.4.rst). I find it very useful to have these pinpoint \*exactly\* what made it into the tarball or zipfile or whatever other form I happen to find the release -- you don't always have the full hg logs lying around, nor do you always know from which exact revision or tag a tree was built.


Of course it's fine to improve the docs in an ongoing fashion, and if it's just a wording change to NEWS or whatsnew I don't mind missing it. But for specific entries I'd like to strive for completeness in each branch/tag/rc.


Also, tonds of thanks to RDM for his work on the new whatsnew!



On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 6:52 AM, R. David Murray <rdmurray@bitdance.com> wrote:

On Tue, 11 Mar 2014 10:15:21 +0100, Georg Brandl <g.brandl@gmx.net> wrote:

> Am 11.03.2014 08:00, schrieb Ned Deily:

> > In article <lfmbjj$nka$2@ger.gmane.org>,

> > �Georg Brandl <g.brandl@gmx.net> wrote:

> >

> >> Am 11.03.2014 06:31, schrieb Ned Deily:

> >> > In article

> >> > <CADiSq7eif2yBkwR4NQLxi800CRqZWwVzmS11eNMt0PQnA23cLA@mail.gmail.com>,

> >> > �Nick Coghlan <ncoghlan@gmail.com> wrote:

> >> >> On 11 March 2014 11:29, R. David Murray <rdmurray@bitdance.com> wrote:

> >> >> > The whatsnew updates (including the one for help) weren't copied into

> >> >> > rc3. �They will be in final though, unless Larry forgets.

> >> >>

> >> >> Oh, cool - yes, it will be good to have an up to date What's New

> >> >> shipped, especially as part of the compiled Windows docs.

> >> >

> >> > I was going to bring that point up today. How are all the new whatsnew

> >> > updates going to get into the 3.4.0 release? �They've, correctly, been

> >> > being pushed to the default branch. �But, AFAIK, for them to show up in

> >> > the 3.4.0 released docs we ship, all of the doc changes are going to

> >> > need to be cherry picked (or a big mass diff from the default branch)

> >> > into the 3.4 release branch, otherwise they will not be part of the

> >> > release. �(They certainly won't be part of the docs included with the

> >> > installers I build unless they are in the 3.4 releasing branch.)

> >>

> >> Copying the file from default and doing just one commit in the releasing

> >> branch should be the easiest way.

> >

> > That covers the whatsnew file but the changes RDM have been making

> > affect other parts of the documentation and Misc/NEWS, too.

>

> NEWS can also be copied of course. �As long as the others aren't critical

> updates, just skip it for the final.

>

> Most people read the online docs anyway.


I don't think the NEWS changes are that important to copy either. �None
of the changes I made outside of whatsnew are substantive, they were
either adding or fixing version tags, fixing formatting, or fixing
typos or other copy-edit type things. �At least, I can't remember
anything that was substantive :)

Oh, there was one thing that might be worth cherry picking: the change
to the email docs. �The new EmailMessage class was documented as being
in the wrong module. �But even that isn't a big deal, since it's
a provisional class, and as Georg said most people read the online
docs anyway, since they get the ongoing updates between releases.

\--David
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