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On Saturday, December 10, 2016, M.-A. Lemburg <mal@egenix.com> wrote:

On 10.12.2016 10:05, David Mertz wrote:

> I'm forwarding this to the PSF Trademarks committee. If there is a

> violation, it's a misuse of trademark, not copyright on the code which has

> the Python license stack.

>

> I'm on that committee and agree this is improper use. Let's see what other

> members think.



Our trademark policy for the word mark Python does allow

for such use and without asking for permissions:



https://www.python.org/psf/trademarks/

"""

...

As such, stating accurately that software is written in the Python

programming language, that it is compatible with the Python programming

language, or that it contains the Python programming language, is always

allowed. In those cases, you may use the word "Python" or the unaltered

logos to indicate this, without our prior approval. This is true both

for non-commercial and commercial uses.



This clause overrides other clauses of this policy.

...

"""



and this is on purpose, since Python is BSD software which

anyone can use, modify, fork, etc.



So, otherwise everyone who forks for any reason is in violation of the trademark policy?

The fork also contains a list of differences compared to

Python 2.7 as shipped by the PSF, so the license is fulfilled

as well:



https://github.com/naftaliharris/python2.8

This could be easier (and linked-to):
https://github.com/naftaliharris/python2.8/compare/master...python/cpython:2.7

https://github.com/python/cpython/compare/2.7...naftaliharris/python2.8:master

git rebase -i?




All that said, I still believe we should contact the author

and ask for a name change to make it clear to our users that

the PSF is not endorsing this fork, nor does it provide

support for it:

<span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:-apple-system,BlinkMacSystemFont,"Segoe UI",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif,"Apple Color Emoji","Segoe UI Emoji","Segoe UI Symbol";background-color:rgb(250,250,250)">From README.md: "Python 2.8 is licensed under the Python Software License, (see the LICENSE file for details). This is not an official Python release; see <a href="https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0404/" style="box-sizing:border-box;color:rgb(64,120,192);font-family:-apple-system,BlinkMacSystemFont,"Segoe UI",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif,"Apple Color Emoji","Segoe UI Emoji","Segoe UI Symbol";background-color:rgb(250,250,250)">PEP 404<span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:-apple-system,BlinkMacSystemFont,"Segoe UI",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif,"Apple Color Emoji","Segoe UI Emoji","Segoe UI Symbol";background-color:rgb(250,250,250)">."
<span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:-apple-system,BlinkMacSystemFont,"Segoe UI",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif,"Apple Color Emoji","Segoe UI Emoji","Segoe UI Symbol";background-color:rgb(250,250,250)">
https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0404/



https://github.com/naftaliharris

https://www.naftaliharris.com/contact/



Regardless of the name, it'll be interesting to see whether

there's demand for such a fork. Without a website, binaries

to download, documentation, etc. it's still in the very early

stages.


What could've been! (Intimidating an incompatible fork would be somewhat hypocritical at this point).

Do you really think it appropriate to demand a name change because you disagree with the fork's backward compatibility?

What a useful list of new features (and potential backports), IMHO
https://pypi.python.org/pypi/backports

https://github.com/naftaliharris/python2.8/compare/asyncio




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