Former Lobbyist Tom Wheeler New FCC Boss - Pro Carrier. Anti-Regulator. What Could Go Wrong? (original) (raw)

FFH5Premium Memberjoin:2002-03-03Tavistock NJ2 edits FFH5 Premium Member 2013-Apr-30 4:38 pm Prime qualification for job»www.core-capital.com/tom ··· ler.aspxIn 2009, he led the Obama-Biden Transition Project's Agency Review Working Group in charge of transitions for the science, technology, space and arts agencies.He has close ties to Obama.»www.c-spanvideo.org/prog ··· am/TomWhClick on the 4mins 35sec timeline link on this page.Click on the 22mins 02secs link to see where he says he has been a lobbyist his whole life.
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Kearnstd_Space Elf_Premium Memberjoin:2002-01-22Mullica Hill, NJ Kearnstd Premium Member 2013-Apr-30 4:47 pm Re: Prime qualification for jobOf course, You either have close ties to the president or close ties to the biggest lobbyists for the president's political party. That is the primary qualifier.
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| | Not good for AereoI was getting excited and hopeful the whole Aereo thing would work out. Now that might not be the case if local networks get off the air or broadband providers place on stricter bandwidth caps. | | ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- | | 2013-Apr-30 5:11 pm: · hey mods · |

Oh_No_Trogglus normalus_join:2011-05-21Chicago, IL1 edit Oh_No Member 2013-Apr-30 6:19 pm Re: Not good for Aereosaid by DarienRedSox:I was getting excited and hopeful the whole Aereo thing would work out. Now that might not be the case if local networks get off the air or broadband providers place on stricter bandwidth caps. Why?Equipment leasing does not fall under the FCC.All Aereo does is lease an antenna, a tuner, and a long cord.The end user can used the leased equipment to pick up OTA tv in range of the leased antenna.I dont think any station would stop OTA broadcasts as that is a huge money maker from advertisements.Also I dont think broadband caps will survive in the US.All the major players were uncapped for 10 to 15 years.I dont thing their capping fad is going to work even with a phony FCC chair.
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| | Re: Not good for AereoNor does regulating Broadband/Internet and those prices but people think the FCC think's they should. | | ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- | | 2013-Apr-30 7:01 pm: · hey mods · |

Oh_No_Trogglus normalus_join:2011-05-21Chicago, IL1 recommendation Oh_No Member 2013-Apr-30 7:40 pm Re: Not good for Aereosaid by TBBroadband:Nor does regulating Broadband/Internet and those prices but people think the FCC think's they should. There is nothing wrong for we the people to use our government to regulate monopolies.The vast majority only has 1 or 2 choices for an ISP. Unless there is lots of competition there is nothing wrong with us regulating prices so these ISPs cant just gouge us with 200% profits knowing we have no choice.The large ISPs of today are only large due to government subsidies and handouts in the first place. Our tax dollars built the internet.We have every right to regulate when there is no competition.
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openbox9Premium Memberjoin:2004-01-2671144 openbox9 Premium Member 2013-Apr-30 8:54 pm Re: Not good for Aereosaid by Oh_No:there is nothing wrong with us regulating prices so these ISPs cant just gouge us with 200% profits knowing we have no choice.And guaranteeing profits for the monopolies to facilitate infrastructure upgrades and expansions? Bring back Ma Bell and lets get our nation's communications infrastructure back to being the best in the world?
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intok (banned)join:2012-03-151 recommendation intok (banned) Member 2013-May-1 7:08 am Re: Not good for AereoNo, because this time around they wont wire up the rural areas and smaller cities as they see it as not being profitable enough until the local municipality or local entrepreneur wants to build their own network, then they go in and use every trick necessary to force them to either kill the project or go out of business.

openbox9Premium Memberjoin:2004-01-2671144 openbox9 Premium Member 2013-May-1 6:35 pm Re: Not good for AereoPut Ma Bell back together again as a regulated monopoly and that problem can be solved relatively easily. Of course, everyone needs to get ready to pay for it.

| | _to Oh_No_There is no such thing as a monopoly any longer. Options are available. So that's a moot point any longer. And douoplies aren't a such thing either. It still gives you options and others as well.and do you know what happens when you regulate???? PRICES GO UP! And next you'll be complaining that prices just went up and fees were just added to be "complaint". But some need to realize the FCC has NO POWER to regulate the Internet. They ruled it was an information service during the Brand X case of sharing cable lines and opening that up to resellers. the FCC ruled and decided.And no your tax dollars did NOT build the Internet. The Internet was not designed for the Internet. It was built/designed for the Defense as a project for them. Only after words was it open to public use and PRIVATE companies manage the Internet. You are free to create your own or build your own ISP. | | --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- | | 2013-Apr-30 9:39 pm: · hey mods · |

Rekruljoin:2007-04-21Milford, CT Rekrul Member 2013-May-1 2:19 am Re: Not good for Aereosaid by TBBroadband:There is no such thing as a monopoly any longer. Options are available. So that's a moot point any longer. And douoplies aren't a such thing either. It still gives you options and others as well.There is no meaningful competition. I currently have Cablevision. The only other major ISP in this area is AT&T, and they've only existed here for a few years. Cablevision fought tooth and nail to try and keep them out. Both have equivalent prices. I could get DSL from other companies, but it would be much slower and I'd still need an AT&T phone account, which would make it even more expensive than just getting a Cablevision or AT&T account.Wireless internet with a whopping 2-3GB of usage each month?What options do I truly have?

intok (banned)join:2012-03-15 _to TBBroadband_Yeah, I have the choice of shitty DSL service from ATT or almost decent service cable service from time warner. I loathe both companies with a passion from having to deal with both extensively in the past. Some choice and competition I've got here, but thats all there is for 90%+ of the US internet going public if you don't want to tether your cellphone and have even slower service at higher prices and data caps for "unlimited" usage and latency that makes gaming impossible.Come back when you aren't shilling kid.


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There is no such thing as a monopoly any longer. Options are available. So that's a moot point any longer. And douoplies aren't a such thing either.

Please wave your magic wand over war and famine and pestilence too.
Oh and....does constant repetition and clicking your heels together three times also get rid of problems??

m35@wideopenwest.com to TBBroadband"And no your tax dollars did NOT build the Internet. The Internet was not designed for the Internet. It was built/designed for the Defense as a project for them. Only after words was it open to public use and PRIVATE companies manage the Internet. You are free to create your own or build your own ISP."Actually that is not completely correct. DARPA/ARPA are departments within the government that dreamed up networking back in the '60s. By the time the government turned it over to the public for use universities where heavily involved. If you are saying the Internet "modern times" after around ~1994 was not built by government than that would be true. Prior ~1994 government built the infrastructure.

fg8578join:2009-04-26San Antonio, TX fg8578 Member 2013-May-2 4:21 pm Re: Not good for Aereosaid by m35 :Actually that is not completely correct. DARPA/ARPA are departments within the government that dreamed up networking back in the '60s. By the time the government turned it over to the public for use universities where heavily involved. If you are saying the Internet "modern times" after around ~1994 was not built by government than that would be true. Prior ~1994 government built the infrastructure. Government did not "build" the infrastructure of the Internet. Gov't PAID for the high speed data / backbone lines but private companies built the infrastructure, from day one.

Oh_No_Trogglus normalus_join:2011-05-21Chicago, IL _to TBBroadband_said by TBBroadband:There is no such thing as a monopoly any longer. Options are available. LOLRight now I can only get ATT Uverse DSL and that is it.People are lucky if they have a choice between DSL and Cable, most dont have the choice.

Oh_No _to TBBroadband_said by TBBroadband:And no your tax dollars did NOT build the Internet. The Internet was not designed for the Internet. It was built/designed for the Defense as a project for them. Only after words was it open to public use and PRIVATE companies manage the Internet. You are free to create your own or build your own ISP. Yes our tax dollars did.They also built out this country's fiber backbone.They built alot of ATTs infrastructure with free grant money.One of the main things our government does is pay alot of corporate welfare. Dont pretend like that does not happen.ATT would not exist with so much control of the internet if it were not for our tax dollars.

openbox9Premium Memberjoin:2004-01-2671144 openbox9 Premium Member 2013-May-1 7:47 pm Re: Not good for AereoAnd we wouldn't have nearly the infrastructure that our country has without AT&T and this "welfare". You can thank Ma Bell as a regulated monopoly for vast swaths of our telecommunications infrastructure. Just imagine what we could have if we put her back together again.

intok (banned)join:2012-03-15 intok (banned) Member 2013-May-2 6:43 am Re: Not good for Aereosaid by openbox9:Put Ma Bell back together again as a regulated monopoly and that problem can be solved relatively easily. Of course, everyone needs to get ready to pay for it. No.said by openbox9:And we wouldn't have nearly the infrastructure that our country has without AT&T and this "welfare". You can thank Ma Bell as a regulated monopoly for vast swaths of our telecommunications infrastructure. Just imagine what we could have if we put her back together again. Or, you could put an end to their anticompetitive practices and vote out the legislators that allowed them to take tax money and not deploy what they said they would.

openbox9Premium Memberjoin:2004-01-2671144 openbox9 Premium Member 2013-May-2 7:14 am Re: Not good for AereoThen no complaints about lacking infrastructure in rural environments and small towns, or the high costs to provide services there, or how the US ranks 'X'th in the world based on some BS stats used to make headlines.said by intok:Or, you could put an end to their anticompetitive practices and vote out the legislators that allowed them to take tax money and not deploy what they said they would.That's the regulated part of regulated monopoly

intok (banned)join:2012-03-15 intok (banned) Member 2013-May-2 8:08 am Re: Not good for AereoNo, as I've said before, wiring those ares is profitable, just not enough for them to bother when they can do nothing and gouge their existing customers and keep any competition from moving in and actually providing a better service or any service at all.Take a look at how the telecom market works in the EU where you have several options for all services. Then look at the failure of Mexico's monopoly phone network. Right now we are just a few mergers away from Mexico.

openbox9Premium Memberjoin:2004-01-2671144 openbox9 Premium Member 2013-May-2 8:52 am Re: Not good for Aereosaid by intok:No, as I've said before, wiring those ares is profitableNo they aren't, nor have they ever been. The USF exists for a reason. Regulated rates exist for a reason. AT&T was granted a de facto monopoly for a reason. Just because the Internet lives, doesn't mean deploying infrastructure to rural America has gotten cheaper. It hasn't.said by intok:Take a look at how the telecom market works in the EU where you have several options for all services. Then look at the failure of Mexico's monopoly phone network. Right now we are just a few mergers away from Mexico.You're making my point for me. You're ignoring the "regulated" part of the discussion.

intok (banned)join:2012-03-15 intok (banned) Member 2013-May-2 4:46 pm Re: Not good for AereoUh, no, when you already run cable there or phone there and are already upgrading inner city areas you have cabling installed and equipment you can reuse to wire those areas. Especially since they are using near minimum wage scab labor to do the job.

openbox9Premium Memberjoin:2004-01-2671144 openbox9 Premium Member 2013-May-2 6:11 pm Re: Not good for AereoSo, since we ran heavily regulated and subsidized paper-wrapped, copper twisted pair to the corners of rural America 60 years ago, it's easy/cheap to re-wire and/or upgrade the infrastructure?

intok (banned)join:2012-03-15 intok (banned) Member 2013-May-3 8:33 pm Re: Not good for AereoActual competition would provide more jobs in the field then the current situation or in the MaBell situation.Maybe your solution could work if the government ran just a dumb line 10Gbit FTTH line to everywhere and all services on that line where provided by private companies. VoIP and IPTV and internet on a single line would be much better then having phone, cable and internet.The only thing I fear with widespread high speed though is people switching to dumb terminals pulling all private date "from the cloud" as this would eventually make the traditional computer and privacy nonexistent.

openbox9Premium Memberjoin:2004-01-2671144 openbox9 Premium Member 2013-May-3 9:32 pm Re: Not good for Aereosaid by intok:Maybe your solution could work if the government ran just a dumb line 10Gbit FTTH line to everywhere and all services on that line where provided by private companies.Or, a regulated monopoly upgrading infrastructure everywhere, since the Government wouldn't be doing it anyway?said by intok:The only thing I fear with widespread high speed though is people switching to dumb terminals pulling all private date "from the cloud" as this would eventually make the traditional computer and privacy nonexistent.What? Computing devices aren't going anywhere. Privacy? Enjoy your illusion of privacy for as long as you'd like.

Oh_No_Trogglus normalus_join:2011-05-21Chicago, IL _to openbox9_said by openbox9:And we wouldn't have nearly the infrastructure that our country has without AT&T and this "welfare". You can thank Ma Bell as a regulated monopoly for vast swaths of our telecommunications infrastructure. Just imagine what we could have if we put her back together again. lol. You have no idea what you are talking about.

openbox9Premium Memberjoin:2004-01-2671144 openbox9 Premium Member 2013-May-2 6:17 pm Re: Not good for AereoRight. Please explain it to me then

fg8578join:2009-04-26San Antonio, TX _to Oh_No_said by Oh_No:There is nothing wrong for we the people to use our government to regulate monopolies.The vast majority only has 1 or 2 choices for an ISP. Unless there is lots of competition there is nothing wrong with us regulating prices so these ISPs cant just gouge us with 200% profits knowing we have no choice.The FCC can price-regulate only those services that it has legal authority to price-regulate. The FCC does not have legal authority to regulate retail Internet prices. Congress can give the FCC that authority but the likelihood of that happening is nil.The large ISPs of today are only large due to government subsidies and handouts in the first place. Our tax dollars built the internet.We have every right to regulate when there is no competition. The government and public universities paid for much of the original Internet backbone, but the facilities were provided by privately-held telcos like CenturyLink and AT&T. The vast majority of the current Internet infrastructure was built by private companies, not by the government and not with tax dollars.

Rekruljoin:2007-04-21Milford, CT1 recommendation _to Oh_No_said by Oh_No:Also I dont think broadband caps will survive in the US.All the major players were uncapped for 10 to 15 years.I dont thing their capping fad is going to work even with a phony FCC chair. It's been working so far. All the sheep seem fine with being told that bandwidth is a finite resource.

Duramax08_To The Moon_Premium Memberjoin:2008-08-03San Antonio, TX1 recommendation I'd like to take a minuteand point out a website.»www.broadband.govThe last "BlogBand" was in July 2012. The website looks the same as the day it came out.I would also like to point out another website.»www.broadbandmap.gov/Since day one, it tells me I can get AT&T and TWC. The truth is, I cant. Oh, and it also tells me I can now get service from "Platinum Equality". Who the hell are they?Anyways, this new guy gots it made. He wont have to do jack shit and he'll get paid for it. Enjoy sitting your ass in your new office chair, you worked really hard for this position
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| | FCCI have had your router for national broadband testing for 3 years now. Can we now throw out your router or at least issue us 1.7Gbs wireless router. | | ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- | | 2013-Apr-30 5:28 pm: · hey mods · |

SimbaSeven_I Void Warranties_join:2003-03-24Billings, MT Re: FCCsaid by brianiscool:Can we now throw out your router or at least issue us 1.7Gbs wireless router.Just flash it with dd-wrt.
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thedragonmasPremium Memberjoin:2007-12-28Albany, GANetgear R6300 v2ARRIS SB6180 _to brianiscool_they dont issue routers any more. i contacted them about this same thing, im one of those people "i do nothing for free" my 2 years is up, i wanted an upgraded router or SOME incentive to keep going, aparantly they consider the pretty little graphs incentive enough. i was informed they no longer issue routers, and only issue the "white box" (bridge unit) since i actually use the latentsy graph i figured why not. took 1 week from the uk to here.now i can flash the router they sent out with tomato and FINALLY get some decent qos
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| | CarlNYC Anon 2013-Apr-30 5:41 pm let me guessThis clown will make that sprint and T-Mobile don't get the precious 600mhz airwaves so the twins bells can pocket it. Also the cable monopoly will keep going strong in the landline broadband dept. | | ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- | | 2013-Apr-30 5:41 pm: · hey mods · |


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linicx_Caveat Emptor_Premium Memberjoin:2002-12-03United State linicx Premium Member 2013-Apr-30 6:00 pm The same problem continues ...The media and other writers insist "competition will be stifled." By what I do not know. In reality there is little to no competition allowed in America. It is a fact of life. Faithful customers are rewarded with poor service, caps, high prices, low speeds, and excuses.Every telephone, cable, and cellphone company in America is well rewarded with protected areas that not only stifles competition it stops it at the door. I've been watching the gay parade of grifters prance through halls of legislatures, large and small, while they twisted arms, and made veiled threats, to give residents as little as possible since the 1990s. That's when Bell killed Sprint Long Distance, and Cox thought is just kids having fun when customers complained about hackers and spam. Routers were new then, and software firewalls were next to useless.I was on one ISP then that thought sending Trojan's in email was okay -- until I returned it and it took down their system for 10 days. I had received 5 before noon one day and warned them. I warned the upstream provider, and marked the infected email to open on a machine not connected so they could look at it. They thought it was a joke. The upstream provider did not and took appropriate measures. By the time it was back on line I had a new Mac, a new provider, and was on online for a week.FCC won't be any better than it was when Justin came on line. And chances are it will be worse. They will sing the same old song, and the gullible will wink and nod. It's not complicated.
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| | sailing thrulooks like the senate should green light this nomination then. good to hear industry insiders are doing the regulating. Who knows best? We do. Yeah the parade of horribles ATT predicted with the T mobile merger being shot down by the meanies all happened...lol | | ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- | | 2013-Apr-30 6:41 pm: · hey mods · |

wdoajoin:2001-10-16Spencer, MA1 recommendation wdoa Member 2013-Apr-30 7:06 pm UCAJust another day in "The United Corporations of America".... "I pledge allegiance to the corporations and to their profits for which it stands..."
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KrK_Heavy Artillery For The Little Guy_Premium Memberjoin:2000-01-17Tulsa, OK1 recommendation KrK Premium Member 2013-Apr-30 7:36 pm I am glad our Government is so transparent... They don't even bother to hide the obvious, glaring conflicts of interests and lobbyist rewards handed out from the public trust/treasury.Corporatism at it's finest.
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KrK KrK Premium Member 2013-Apr-30 7:38 pm His Goal.......is to make sure the FCC doesn't do it's job and is as ineffectual as possible.He will be richly rewarded when his revolving door time at the FCC ends, as well.
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| | Re: His Goal...what job is the FCC not doing???? | | ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- | | 2013-Apr-30 9:51 pm: · hey mods · |

elrayjoin:2000-12-16Santa Monica, CA elray Member 2013-Apr-30 8:46 pm Change we can believe inThis country doesn't have a good track record with regulating industry from Washington.While I certainly don't like the general attitude we see out of Verizon, AT&T, and much of the cable industry, their products and price points are phenomenally better than they were a decade ago, the result of competition - even if in many instances, locally, it is but a duopoly, or even a monopoly.And the products we see today are worlds better than what we had under the regulated model.Better to retain the threat of regulation, rather than actually attempt it.
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| | Re: Change we can believe inthere is no monopoly or duopoly any longer. see above. | | ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- | | 2013-Apr-30 9:52 pm: · hey mods · |

GNH_I know my limitations._Premium Memberjoin:1999-12-20Canyon Lake, TX GNH Premium Member 2013-Apr-30 11:23 pm Lapdog Wheeler"...somehow people think this is a guy who'll stand up to Comcast, Verizon and AT&T?"Ha. You're right, it won't happen. He is another lapdog. Nothing more, nothing less. This will become apparent within the year.
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axusjoin:2001-06-18Washington, DC axus Member 2013-May-1 9:42 am Astroturfing, you say?Hey Tom, which username are you posting under, here?

fg8578join:2009-04-26San Antonio, TX fg8578 Member 2013-May-2 4:32 pm Re: Sign the White House petitionMob rules, right? You would be much more effective by contacting your Senators and explaining to them why they should oppose this nomination. But that requires, you know . . . actual WORK.