[LLVMdev] RFC: variable names (original) (raw)
Richard Smith richard at metafoo.co.uk
Mon Oct 13 16:08:47 PDT 2014
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On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 3:19 PM, Chandler Carruth <chandlerc at google.com> wrote:
On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 3:04 PM, Nick Kledzik <kledzik at apple.com> wrote:
I’d like to discuss revising the LLVM coding conventions to change the naming of variables to start with a lowercase letter.
Almost all of your negatives of the current conventions also apply to your proposed convention. Type names: CamelCase Function names: camelCase Variable names: ??? If we name variables in camelCase then variable names and function names collide. If we are going to change how we name variables, I very much want them to not collide with either type names or function names. My suggestion would be "lowercase" names.
I think this would be bad:
function(); lambda(); longFunction(); long_lambda();
... but possibly not in practice, since function names rarely have only one word.
A partial-camel-case, partly-underscores convention sounds strange to me. (I don't find this to be problematic for BIG_SCARY_MACROS and for ABCK_EnumNamespaces because the former are rare and in the latter case the underscore isn't a word separator, it's a namespace separator.) We have a few people here who are used to such a style (since it's what the Google style guide and derivatives uses); any useful feedback from that experience?
Some arguments against the change as proposed:
Initialisms. It's common in Clang code (also in LLVM?) to use initialisms as variable names. This doesn't really seem to work for names that start with a lower case letter.
The ambiguity introduced might be worse than the one removed. It's usually easy to see if a name is a type or variable from the context of the use. It's not so easy to see if a name is a function or a variable, especially as more variables become callable due to the prevalence of lambdas.
This also happens to be the vastly most common pattern across all C++
coding styles and C-based language coding styles I have seen.
This should not be a discussion on the pain of such a transition, or how to get from here to there, but rather, if there is a better place to be. My arguments for the change are: 1. No other popular C++ coding style uses capitalized variable names. For instance here are other popular C++ conventions that use camelCase: http://google-styleguide.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/cppguide.xml This does not use camelCase for variable names.
http://www.c-xx.com/ccc/ccc.php
http://geosoft.no/development/cppstyle.html
And, of course, the all-lower-case conventions (e.g. C++ ARM) don’t capitalize variable names. In addition, all the common C derived languages don’t use capitalized variable names (e.g. Java, C#, Objective-C). Some or all of those other conventions don't capitalize any names (other than perhaps macros), so we're not going to become consistent with them by making this change.
- Ambiguity. Capitalizing type names is common across most C++
conventions. But in LLVM variables are also capitalized which conflates types and variables. Starting variable names with a lowercase letter disambiguates variables from types. For instance, the following are ambiguous using LLVM’s conventions:
Xxx Yyy(Zzz); // function prototype or local object construction? Aaa(Bbb); // function call or cast?
3. Allows name re-use. Since types and variables are both nouns, using different capitalization allows you to use the same simple name for types and variables, for instance: Stream stream; 4. Dubious history. Years ago the LLVM coding convention did not specify if variables were capitalized or not. Different contributors used different styles. Then in an effort to make the style more uniform, someone flipped a coin and updated the convention doc to say variables should be capitalized. I never saw any on-list discussion about this. FWIW, I thought the argument for the current convention was: capitalize proper nouns (classes and variables), do not capitalize verbs (functions), as in English. Though maybe that's just folklore.
- Momentum only. When I’ve talked with various contributors privately, I
have found no one who says they likes capitalized variables. It seems like everyone thinks the conventions are carved in stone...
Momentum is an argument against the change, not in favour of it: this change has a re-learning cost for everyone who hacks on LLVM projects. (Your point that no-one seems to like capitalized variables is valid, but generally people are opposed to change too.)
I would add:
- Lower barrier to entry. Our current convention is different from almost all other C++ code, and new developers very frequently get it wrong.
My proposal is that we modify the LLVM Coding Conventions to have variable
names start with a lowercase letter.
Index: CodingStandards.rst =================================================================== --- CodingStandards.rst (revision 219065) +++ CodingStandards.rst (working copy) @@ -1073,8 +1073,8 @@ nouns and start with an upper-case letter (e.g.
TextFileReader
). * Variable names should be nouns (as they represent state). The name should - be camel case, and start with an upper case letter (e.g.Leader
or -Boats
). + be camel case, and start with a lower case letter (e.g.leader
or +boats
). * Function names should be verb phrases (as they represent actions), and command-like function should be imperative. The name should be camel case,
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