java.nio.*Buffer read/write atomicity (original) (raw)
Vitaly Davidovich vitalyd at gmail.com
Thu Dec 20 19:29:48 UTC 2012
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In the name of performance, go for it. :)
Vitaly
Sent from my phone On Dec 20, 2012 1:22 PM, "Aleksey Shipilev" <aleksey.shipilev at oracle.com> wrote:
The astonishment comes from this: a. racy Unsafe.putInt(...) to byte[] is atomic* b. racy direct ByteBuffer.putInt(...) is atomic* c. racy heap ByteBuffer.putInt(...) is NOT! d. racy heap ByteBuffer.asIntBuffer().put(...) is NOT atomic again!
So then, the hacky code over the byte arrays appears more consistent than public API, without any solid reason for that? Granted, we can always put our fingers in our ears and sing "la-la-la, you were never guaranteed that", but I would say this is surprising inconsistency. And by the way direct ByteBuffers (inadvertently) deal with that, it's obvious we can do the same for heap ByteBuffers. I feel dumb for having to explain this, I should have probably publish the CR with the change and advocate it helps performance, fixing the atomicity issue under the cover. The atomicity does not have to be spec'ed, but I would certainly vote for it for the equivalent implementation. Sorry for mudding the quiet waters. -Aleksey. (*) subject to underlying hardware memory model, alignment, etc. On 12/20/2012 10:03 PM, Vitaly Davidovich wrote: > But why would there be astonishment/surprise here if it says it's not > threadsafe? I guess that's the part I'm having trouble understanding. > > Sent from my phone > > On Dec 20, 2012 12:54 PM, "Aleksey Shipilev" > <aleksey.shipilev at oracle.com <mailto:aleksey.shipilev at oracle.com>> wrote: > > On 12/20/2012 09:49 PM, Vitaly Davidovich wrote: > > Just curious - what's the driver for this? Suppose it did have full > > width writes/reads - you still shouldn't use it in a data racey way > > since it's not spec'd to be threadsafe and you can only observe torn > > reads/writes if you access it without synchronization. > > The driver is the infamous "principle of least astonishment", aided by > my purism. Java is remarkable in the way it deals with races, trying to > surprise the least when something breaks. I think the change that brings > in more consistency without sacrificing maintainability and/or > performance is the change we endorse, right? > > -Aleksey. >
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