JEP proposed to target JDK 11: 323: Local-Variable Syntax for Lambda Parameters (original) (raw)

Martijn Verburg martijnverburg at gmail.com
Fri Jan 26 09:14:22 UTC 2018

I'd be interested in some empirical numbers around the usage in Groovy of the two styles of declaration!

I'm also trying hard not to get caught up only thinking about syntax here. I know that I'm someone who's not a qualified language or VM expert and that I've more than likely got caught up thinking about the wrong problem (syntax vs semantics).

Cheers, Martijn

On 26 January 2018 at 21:38, Cédric Champeau <cedric.champeau at gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Martijn,

I share your thoughts. I understand the will to streamline the use of "var". However, since (var x, var y) -> x+y is strictly equivalent to: (x,y) -> x+y I'm not sure I see the advantage of this. From my experience with Groovy, where both are supported ( { def x, def y -> ) and ( { x,y ->), I think most people stick with the short syntax, the longer one seems to imply different semantics (why use a different syntax if its the same ?), where there are not. 2018-01-26 9:30 GMT+01:00 Martijn Verburg <martijnverburg at gmail.com>: > Hi all, > > I'm struggling to understand the motivation for this JEP in terms of it > adding improved understanding or readability of source code (as the > implicit case is already covered today). > > I also suspect the illegal use uses (extract below) will likely confuse and > frustrate day to day developer's who don't understand the underlying type > inference system and lead to > some heavily upvoted SO Q's. I liken this type of frustration seen in > developers not understanding generics in full and coming undone in corner > cases where they expect the element of > 'least surprise'. > > ------ > > The following examples are illegal: > > (var x, y) -> x + y // Cannot mix var and "no var" in > implicitly typed lambda expression > (var x, int y) -> x + y // Cannot mix var and manifest types in > explicitly typed lambda expression > > > ------- > > I'm not sure I've explained myself very eloquently here, hope this has made > some sense. > > Cheers, > Martijn > > On 26 January 2018 at 08:40, <mark.reinhold at oracle.com> wrote: > > > The following JEP is proposed to target JDK 11: > > > > 323: Local-Variable Syntax for Lambda Parameters > > http://openjdk.java.net/jeps/323 > > > > Feedback on this proposal is more than welcome, as are reasoned > > objections. If no such objections are raised by 23:00 UTC on Thursday, > > 1 February, or if they're raised and then satisfactorily answered, then > > per the JEP 2.0 process proposal [1] I'll target this JEP to JDK 11. > > > > - Mark > > > > > > [1] http://cr.openjdk.java.net/~mr/jep/jep-2.0-02.html > > >

More information about the jdk-dev mailing list