[Python-3000] Bound and unbound methods (original) (raw)

Nick Coghlan ncoghlan at gmail.com
Mon Aug 14 04:27:57 CEST 2006

Talin wrote:

Anyway, I just wanted to throw that out there. Feel free to -1 away... :)

Based on the later discussion, I see two interesting possibilities:

  1. A special CALL_METHOD opcode that the compiler emits when it spots the ".NAME(ARGS)" pattern. This could simply be an optimisation performed by the bytecode emitter when processing an AST Call node with an Attribute node as the "func" subnode (it would need to poke around inside the Attribute node, rather than generating the Attribute node's code normally, though). For functions, this opcode could bypass get and invoke call directly with the right arguments. Put the actual optimisation into PyObject_CallMethod and call that from the new opcode, and more than just the eval loop would benefit.

This could also be done by the addition of a MethodCall AST node, and an AST->AST optimizing pass that took the Call+Attribute node and merged them into a single MethodCall node (The concrete parser can't look far enough ahead to figure out that a given attribute access is part of a method call).

Option 1 is focused on the speedup Talin mentioned. Aside from the downside of additional complexity in the code generation phase, I don't see any real downside - get will only be bypassed when the interpreter knows what the descriptor would do.

  1. Rewrite the get methods on functions, classmethod and staticmethod to cache the resulting method object in the class dictionary or instance dictionary. This would entail making method objects descriptors that returned a bound copy of themselves when retrieved through an instance. That way, for methods that are never called, the method objects are never created, but for methods that are used, the method object is created only once. Something would need to be done to make this work for object's without an instance dictionary

I personally would favour the option of making dict available by default (i.e. put that behaviour in object), with no caching occurring if the object had no dict attribute at all. Tuples and the numeric types could continue not to support attributes (as allocating space for an extra pointer would be a big size increase for them in their general usage pattern, and they don't generally have methods that are called from Python), while the other builtin types would acquire a usable dict attribute (which may not be instantiated until the first time it is needed, although if instance methods get cached, it would be needed most of the time, so the extra complexity of lazy initialization may not be worth it).

The interesting benefit of option 2 is that "assert list.append is list.append" would now succeed, as would "s = []; assert s.append is s.append". "assert [].index is [].index" would still fail though, as different instances would get their own bound methods.

The downside of option 2 is that it is slightly more likely to break stuff due to the changes in semantics, and that it is a case of a genuine space-speed tradeoff - this approach will use more memory than the current approach, because bound method objects are always allocated permanently instead of being ephemeral things.

OTOH, if you did both option 1 and option 2, the caching would occur only if you retrieved a method without calling it immediately, and be bypassed most of the time.

Cheers, Nick.

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