[Python-3000] Ctypes as cross-interpreter C calling interface (original) (raw)

Nick Coghlan ncoghlan at gmail.com
Tue Aug 15 03:25:57 CEST 2006

Guido van Rossum wrote:

On 8/14/06, Jean-Paul Calderone <exarkun at divmod.com> wrote:

On Mon, 14 Aug 2006 09:09:49 -0700, Guido van Rossum <guido at python.org> wrote:

On 8/14/06, Jean-Paul Calderone <exarkun at divmod.com> wrote:

This is a joke, right? Because it's a good idea to have to write separate wrappers around every useful library for each dynamic languague separately? If a project has done this successfully, I don't think I've seen it. Can you point out some examples where this has been accomplished in a useful form? The nearest thing I can think of is SWIG, which is basically a failure. SWIG is not my favorite (msotly because I don't like C++ much) but it's used very effectively here at Google (for example); I wouldn't dream of calling it a failure.

I've found SWIG to be especially effective when using it to wrap a library I have control over, so I can tweak the interface to avoid stressing the code generator too much. Running it over arbitrary C libraries requires a fair bit of work defining the necessary typemaps (although you still have the benefit of writing the typemap for a given style of interface once instead of for every function that uses it).

However, in the context of this discussion, a SWIG-like tool that produced pure Python ctypes-based code would be a vast improvement. Taking the SWIG typemaps for the Python C API as a starting point, you could even do it with SWIG itself (rather than reinventing the wheel, as codegen's components for parsing C header files appear to do).

Cheers, Nick.

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