[Python-3000] PEP3102 Keyword-Only Arguments (original) (raw)

Nick Coghlan ncoghlan at gmail.com
Tue Aug 15 08:44:25 CEST 2006

Steven Bethard wrote:

[Steven Bethard]

It would be really nice in the example above to mark self in _call_ as a positional only argument. [Nick Coghlan] However, I'm also wondering if we need an actual syntax, or if a simple convention would do the trick: start the names of positional-only arguments with an underscore. That would certainly be good enough for me. As long as it's documented and there's somewhere to point to when someone does it wrong, it solves my problem.

Putting something in PEP 8's section on naming conventions should do the trick (along with updating the standard library so that things like UserDict that accept arbitrary **kwargs use it for their positional arguments).

That would also serve as a reminder that the support for keyword arguments means that the parameter names are part of the public interface of a Python function along with their positions and types.

[Guido van Rossum] Hm... and perhaps we could forbid keyword arguments starting with an underscore in the call syntax? -0. As long as the convention exists somewhere, I don't think this buys us too much. I think supplying a keyword argument when you should be using a positional is about the same level of willing-to-shoot-yourself-in-the-foot as using attributes that are supposed to be private (the other place where leading underscores are suggested).

That's exactly the comparison I was aiming for - you can if you really have to, but you also shouldn't. And if you do, you'd better including a comment explaining why you have to if you don't want any reviewers complaining about it ;)

Cheers, Nick.

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