[Python-3000] Droping find/rfind? (original) (raw)

Nick Coghlan ncoghlan at gmail.com
Sat Aug 26 10:02:15 CEST 2006

Ron Adam wrote:

Nick Coghlan wrote:

Fredrik Lundh wrote:

Nick Coghlan wrote:

Nick Coghlan wrote:

With a variety of "view types", that work like the corresponding builtin type, but reference the original data structure instead of creating copies support for string views would require some serious interpreter surgery, though, and probably break quite a few extensions... Why do you say that? because I happen to know a lot about how Python's string types are implemented ? I believe you're thinking about something far more sophisticated than what I'm suggesting. I'm just talking about a Python data type in a standard library module that trades off slower performance with smaller strings (due to extra method call overhead) against improved scalability (due to avoidance of copying strings around). make a view of it so to make a view of a string, you make a view of it ? Yep - by using all those "start" and "stop" optional arguments to builtin string methods to implement the methods of a string view in pure Python. By creating the string view all you would really be doing is a partial application of start and stop arguments on all of the relevant string methods. I've included an example below that just supports len, str and partition(). The source object survives for as long as the view does - the idea is that the view should only last while you manipulate the string, with only real strings released outside the function via return statements or yield expressions. >>> self.source = "%s" % source I think this should be. self.source = source Other wise you are making copies of the source which is what you are trying to avoid. I'm not sure if python would reuse the self.source string, but I wouldn't count on it.

CPython 2.5 certainly doesn't reuse the existing string object. Given that what I wrote is the way to ensure you have a builtin string type (str or unicode) without coercing actual unicode objects to str objects or vice-versa, it should probably be subjected to the same optimisation as the str() and unicode() constructors (i.e., simply increfing and returning the original builtin string).

It might be nice if slice objects could be used in more ways in python. That may work in most cases where you would want a string view.

That's quite an interesting idea. With that approach, rather than having to duplicate 'concrete sequence with copying semantics' and 'sequence view with non-copying semantics' everywhere, you could just provide methods on objects that returned the appropriate slice objects representing the location of relevant sections, rather than copies of the sections themselves.

To make that work effectively, you'd need to implement nonzero on slice objects as "((self.stop - self.start) // self.step) > 0" (Either that or implement len, which would contribute to making slice() look more and more like xrange(), as someone else noted recently).

Using the same signature as partition:

def partition_indices(self, sep, start=None, stop=None):
    if start is None: start = 0
    if stop is None: stop = len(s)
    try:
        idxsep = self.index(sep, start, stop)
    except ValueError:
        return slice(start, stop), slice(0), slice(0)
    endsep = idxsep + len(sep)
    return slice(start, idxsep), slice(idxsep, endsep), slice(endsep, stop)

Then partition() itself would be equivalent to:

def partition(self, sep, start=None, stop=None):
    before, sep, after = self.partition_indices(sep, start, stop)
    return self[before], self[sep], self[after]

Cheers, Nick.

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