[Python-3000] removing exception .args (original) (raw)

Nick Coghlan ncoghlan at gmail.com
Sat Jul 21 20:02:57 CEST 2007

Andrew Dalke wrote:

Having support for a single object (almost always a string) passed into the exception is pragmatically useful, so I think the base exception class should look like

class Exception(object): msg = None def init(self, msg): self.msg = msg def str(self): if self.msg is not None: return "%s()" % (self.class.name,) else: return "%s(%r)" % (self.class.name, self.msg) **

Went there, didn't like it, left again. See PEP 352, especially the section on the late (unlamented) BaseException.message.

The rest of this email is because I'm detail oriented and present evidence to back up my assertion.

There are a number of subclasses which should but don't call the base init, generic error reporting software can't use the "args protocol" for anything. Pretty much the only thing a generic error report mechanism (like traceback and logging) can do is call str() on the exception.

As of Python 2.5, you can rely on the attribute being present, as it is provided automatically by BaseException:

.>>> class MyException(Exception): ... def init(self): ... pass ... .>>> MyException().args ()

Of course, as Guido pointed out, args will be empty unless the exception sets it directly or via BaseException.init.

This is correct, but cumbersome. Why should we encourage all non-trivial subclasses to look like this?

If you want to avoid requiring that subclasses call your init method, you can actually do that by putting any essential initialisation into the new method instead. Then the requirement is merely to call the parent new method if you override new, and you have to do something like that in order to create the class instance in the first place.

To rewrite the example from getopt using this technique:

class GetoptError(Exception): def new(cls, msg, opt=''): self = super(cls, GetoptError).new(cls, msg, opt='') self.msg = msg self.opt = opt return self

 def __str__(self):
     return self.msg

I actually find using new this way to be a useful practice in general for setting up class invariants in base classes, as it's easy to forget to call init on the base class, but forgetting to call new takes some serious effort. Putting the essential parts in new means never having to include the instruction that "you must call this classes init method when subclassing and overriding init" into any API documentation I write.

Regards, Nick.

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