[Python-3000] PEP 3131 accepted (original) (raw)

Steve Howell showell30 at yahoo.com
Thu May 24 02:57:44 CEST 2007

--- Neil Toronto <ntoronto at cs.byu.edu> wrote:

Josiah Carlson wrote: > Thank you for hitting home that unless people use Emacs, their tools > arent sufficient for Python development. I still don't believe that my > concerns have been addressed. And I certainly don't believe that those > Ka-Ping brought up (which are better than mine) have been addressed. > But hey, my tools aren't Emacs, so obviusly my concerns regarding using > my tools to edit Python in the future don't matter. Thank you for the > vote of confidence. >

Though I don't develop an editor in my spare time, I had a similar reaction to the "Emacs does Unicode this way, which is correct" solutions. My favorite editor is going to have to get awfully smart. It reminds me of some friction I experienced when trying out Lisp. It's fairly painful to program in Lisp without an editor that does paren-matching and automatic indentation. I tried Emacs, and I didn't like it, which is a shame because it's the One True Editor for programming in Lisp. I basically dropped Lisp over this issue. [...]

I'm +1 on being able to use Py3k effectively with a relatively dumb editor. (I now use vim, which sucks a lot less than vi, but doesn't compare to some pretty damn awesome Windows editors that I used in my pre-Python days).

Still, I'm plus +1 on PEP 3131. It will benefit me in no way whatsoever, as I'm a native English speaker, I'm of English descent, I work with people with code most effectively in English (even though it's often their second language), I18N doesn't fit my brain, I like English muffins, etc.

The thing that's compelling to me about PEP 3131 is that it truly opens up Python to a new audience. I just hope I never have to write an app that parses Dutch tax laws.

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