[Python-Dev] VC 7.1 maintenance? (original) (raw)

Christian Tismer tismer at stackless.com
Tue Jun 22 05:49:20 EDT 2004


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Tim Peters wrote:

[M.-A. Lemburg]

(Just asking whether it's time to finally open the VC7 shrink- wrap box ;-)

Yup. IIRC, it took about 3GB of disk space to do a full install (including copying all the docs to disk). After it's installed, you won't recognize it, and will feel completely lost. This is a learning experience .

I had to do this, primarily to try and compile Prothon, and after half a day of playing with the thing, I think it is better to use than VC 6. Some keyboard shortcuts are gone, unfortunately, but those for the debugger are still there (sigh). One tremendous improvement in the GUI: You can now decide which windows are docked and which not, and the docking concept is now so universal, that I begin to like it. Every window can split itself, becoming a container for more windows, it can become tabbed, you can drag windows out, and on and on. This is really much mre handy. Before, I always had trouble with my variable inspector windows. Touching them wrong, they would snap into a place where I didn't want them. And, now you can have as many VC instances as you like, which is very handy when testing different versions against each other.

Does anybody have experience with the newly exposed COM model for debugging? I'd like to write an add-on that allows to inspect PyObjects more naturally, likewise using repr calls to show PyObjects while debugging the interpreter.

ciao - chris

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