[Python-Dev] PEP 246, redux (original) (raw)

Nick Coghlan ncoghlan at iinet.net.au
Thu Jan 13 15:30:17 CET 2005

Phillip J. Eby wrote:

Anyway, I'm at least +0 on dropping this; the reservation is just because I don't think everybody else will agree with this, and don't want to be appearing to imply that consensus between you and me implies any sort of community consensus on this point. That is, the adaptation from "Alex and Phillip agree" to "community agrees" is noisy at best! ;)

You seem to be doing a pretty good job of covering the bases, though. . .

Anyway, I'd like to know if the consensus I think you've reached is the one the pair of you think you've reached :)

That is, with A being our starting class, C being a target class, and F being a target interface, the legal adaptation chains are:

Class to class

A->C

Class to interface, possibly via other interfaces

A(->F)*->F

With a lookup sequence of:

  1. Check the global registry for direct adaptations
  2. Ask the object via conform 3a. Check using isinstance() unless 2 raised LiskovViolation 3b. Nothing, since object.conform does an isinstance() check
  3. Ask the interface via adapt
  4. Look for transitive chains of interfaces in the global registry.

3a & 3b are the current differing answers to the question of who should be checking for inheritance - the adaptation machinery or the conform method.

If classes wish to adapt to things which their parents adapt to, they must delegate to their parent's conform method as needed (or simply not override conform). The ONLY automatic adaptation links are those that allow a subtype to be used in place of its parent type, and this can be overriden using conform. (FWIW, this point about 'adapting to things my parent can adapt to' by delegating in conform inclines me in favour of option 3b for handling subtyping. However, I can appreciate wanting to keep the PEP free of proposing any changes to the core - perhaps mention both, and leave the decision to the BDFL?)

One question - is the presence of adapt enough to mark something as an interface in the opinion of the adaptation machinery (for purposes of step 5)?

Second question - will there be something like conformant and conforming to allow classes and interfaces to provide additional information in the transitive search in step 5?

Or are both of these questions more in PEP 245 territory?

Cheers, Nick. Almost sent this to c.l.p by mistake . . .

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