[Python-Dev] reducing self.x=x; self.y=y; self.z=z boilerplate code (original) (raw)

Nick Coghlan ncoghlan at gmail.com
Sat Jul 2 06:05:29 CEST 2005

Ralf W. Grosse-Kunstleve wrote:

I know enhancing the syntax is work, but shouldn't a syntax leading to less code clutter be the higher value? IMO a long-term gain counts for much more than avoiding a one-time investment implementing a useful feature. Take, for example, the syntax enhancement supporting "import foo as bar". I could just as easily write:

import foo bar = foo del foo "A syntax change is wholly unnecessary." Why was it important enough anyway? It was a good enhancement because it is clearly more expressive and reduces clutter. In my experience the self.x=x; self.y=y etc. problem arises much more often than the problem solved by "import foo as bar". IMO a built-in solution is much more important in practice. Why does everybody have to reinvent the adoptinitargs/initialize wheel, or have to sheepishly type self.x=x...?

Actually, this reminds me of a recent suggestion (from AMK?) about being able to get at both the packed and unpacked form of an argument via:

def f(arg as (a, b, c)): print arg print c, b, a

Then f([1, 2, 3]) would print: [1, 2, 3] 3 2 1

If the right hand side of 'as' permitted the same forms as are going to be permitted for the 'as' clause in 'with' statements, then Ralf's situation could be handled via:

def init(self as s, x as s.x, y as s.y, z as s.z): pass

Essentially, it allows arguments to be given two names - a public name (before the 'as', used for keyword arguments), and a private name (after the 'as', not used for keyword arguments, allows easy shorthand aliasing of self, unpacking of tuple arguments, and easy assignment of instance variables).

Cheers, Nick.

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