[Python-Dev] PEP 343 and with (original) (raw)

Guido van Rossum guido at python.org
Mon Oct 3 20:07:07 CEST 2005

For the record, I very much want PEPs 342 and 343 implemented. I haven't had the time to look at the patch and don't expect to find the time any time soon, but it's not for lack of desire to see this feature implemented.

I don't like Jason's with proposal and even less like his idea to drop enter and exit (I think this would just make it harder to provide efficient implementations in C).

I'm all for adding enter and exit to locks.

I'm even considering that it might be a good idea to add them to files.

For the record, here at Elemental we write a lot of Java code that uses database connections in a pattern that would have greatly benefited from a similar construct in Java. :)

--Guido

On 10/3/05, Michael Hudson <mwh at python.net> wrote:

"Phillip J. Eby" <pje at telecommunity.com> writes:

> Since the PEP is accepted and has patches for both its implementation and a > good part of its documentation, a major change like this would certainly > need a better rationale. Though given the amount of interest said patch has attracted (none at all) perhaps noone cares very much and the proposal should be dropped. Which would be a shame given the time I spent on it and all the hot air here on python-dev... Cheers, mwh (who still likes PEP 343 and doesn't particularly like Jason's suggested changes). -- Gevalia is undrinkable low-octane see-through only slightly roasted bilge water. Compared to .us coffee it is quite drinkable. -- Måns Nilsson, asr

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