[Python-Dev] PEP and stdlib (original) (raw)

Nick Coghlan ncoghlan at gmail.com
Fri Jan 13 11:16:12 CET 2006

Fabien Schwob wrote:

Hello,

I've often read new PEP that are published, and they are often about new additions to the core language. Why not using them with the standard library.

PEPs are used to make changes to the Standard Library - there's a bunch of them listed in PEP 0. However, a formal PEP is often not required when there is no significant dissent on c.l.p or python-dev that requires a BDFL pronouncement - in such cases, the relevant module maintainer (or python-dev collectively) may just accept the change and check it in. If there's no controversy about a change, the overhead involved in making a PEP just isn't worth it.

Making changes to the core language (especially syntax changes, but also adding or significantly altering builtins) always requires a BDFL pronouncement, is almost always controversial, and hence almost always involves a full PEP.

(The only syntax change I know of that Guido has approved without a PEP is to fix the minor irritation where keyword arguments can't come after a *argument. However, even that should probably be made into a full PEP so that some potential extensions to define keyword-only arguments and function default values can be debated).

Guido often say that he don't want to include new module that aren't widely used in the community. It's a good thing, but it lead to the creation of a lot of API incompatible modules. Why not using PEP in order to create standard API like the Java world do with JSRs (Java Specification Requests) ?

What do you think about that ?

Some PEP's are already about exactly such issues - there are a few listed under "Other Informational PEP's" in PEP 0.

Cheers, Nick.

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