[Python-Dev] PEP 343 and context() (original) (raw)

Nick Coghlan ncoghlan at gmail.com
Fri Jan 20 10:21:43 CET 2006

Jason Orendorff wrote:

I just noticed that my name is in PEP 343 attached to the idea of the context() method, and I'm slightly queasy over it.

The rationale was to help e.g. decimal.DecimalContext support 'with'. Maybe that's a bad idea. DecimalContext has a few problems. In code where it matters, every function you write has to worry about it. (That is, you can't just write decimalcontext = ... at the top of the file and be done with it, the way you can with, say, metaclass.)

No, you write "decimal.setcontext(...)" instead. You then only need to worry if you have multiple threads, and you can even fix that by modifying decimal.DefaultContext while the program is still single threaded. The latter approach actually works even for a single-threaded program, but should only be done in an application script, never in an imported module.

And DecimalContext doesn't fit in with generators.

It does fit actually - you simply have to remember to restore the original context around any invocations of yield.

sys.stdout has similar problems.

It feels like PEP 343 will make people want to follow this model. That is, we'll see more global behavior-controlling variables in the future. There are grizzlier fates; I just wondered if anyone had thought of this.

Yeah, it came up in response to PJE's suggestion of task-local variables for generators. The basic concept we came up with is that if you're writing a generator that uses a specific context, remember to save the original and restore it around any calls to yield (at least, I came up with the idea and no-one objected to the approach [1]).

In the case of decimal.Context:

  def iter_sin(iterable):
     orig_ctx = decimal.getcontext()
     with orig_ctx as ctx:
         ctx.prec += 10
         for r in iterable:
             y = sin(r) # Very high precision during calculation
             with orig_ctx:
                 yield +y # Yielded results have normal precision
             # We get "ctx" back here
     # We get "orig_ctx" back here

Similarly for sys.stdout (only not thread-safe due to the global state):

  def log_yielded_items(iterable, logfile):
     orig_stdout = sys.stdout
     with redirected_stdout(logfile):
         for r in iterable:
             print "Yielding:", r
             with redirected_stdout(orig_stdout):
                 yield r # stdout goes back to normal here
             # stdout is going to the logfile again here
     # And stdout is back to normal at the end

The key properties of a "well-behaved" context are:

  1. Use thread-local state for contexts in order to be multithreading safe decimal.Context obeys this, sys.stdout doesn't

  2. Provide a way to retrieve the current state for explicit restoration decimal.getcontext() and sys.stdout allow this as shown above

This kind of thing is always going to be a pain, but PEP 343 makes it significantly less so.

Cheers, Nick.

[1] http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-dev/2005-October/057493.html

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