[Python-Dev] yield back-and-forth? (original) (raw)

Nick Coghlan ncoghlan at gmail.com
Sat Jan 21 05:40:29 CET 2006

Phillip J. Eby wrote:

Thoughts? If we have to have a syntax, "yield from subgenerator()" seems clearer than "yieldthrough", and doesn't require a new keyword.

Andrew Koenig suggested the same phrasing last year [1], and I liked it then. I don't like it any more, though, as I think it is too inflexible, and we have a better option available (specifically, stealing "continue with an argument" from PEP 340). The following ramblings (try to) explain my reasoning :)

Guido does raise an interesting point. The introduction of "send" and "throw" means that the current simple loop approach does not easily allow values to be passed down to nested generators, nor does not it correctly terminate nested generators in response to an invocation of "throw". Because of the explicit for loop, the nested generator only gets cleaned up in response to GC - it never sees the exception that occurs in the body of the for loop (at the point of the yield expression).

The "yield from iterable" concept could be translated roughly as follows:

itr = iter(iterable) try: send_input = itr.send # Can input values be passed down? except AttributeError: send_input = None try: next = itr.next() # Get the first output except StopIteration: pass else: while 1: try: input = yield next # yield and get input except: try: throw_exc = itr.throw # Can exception be passed down? except AttributeError: raise # Nope, reraise else: throw_exc(sys.exc_info()) # Yep, pass it down else: try: if send_input is None: if input is not None: raise TypeError("Cannot send input!") next = itr.next() else: next = send_input(input) # Pass input down except StopIteration: break

I'm not particularly happy with this, though, as not only is it horribly implicit and magical, it's trivial to accidentally break the chain - consider what happens if you naively do: yield from (x*x for x in sub_generator())

The chain has been broken - the sub generator no longer sees either passed in values or thrown exceptions, as the generator expression intercepts them without passing them down. Even worse, IMO, is that the syntax is entirely inflexible - we have no easy way to manipulate either the results sent from the generator, or the input values passed to it.

However, an idea from Guido's PEP 340 helps with the "send" part of the story, involving passing an argument to continue:

def main_generator(): ... for value in sub_generator(): continue yield value

Here, sub_generator's "send" method would be invoked with the result of the call to yield value. Manipulation in either direction (input or output) is trivial:

def main_generator(): ... for value in sub_generator(): input = yield valuevalue # Square the output values continue inputinput # Square the input values, too

You could even do odd things like yield each value twice, and then pass down pairs of inputs:

def main_generator(): ... for value in sub_generator(): continue (yield value), (yield value)

The need to use a "continue" statement eliminates the temptation to use a generator expression, and makes it far less likely the downwards connection between the main generator and the sub generator will be accidentally broken.

Exception propagation is a different story. What do you want to propagate? All exceptions from the body of the for loop? Or just those from the yield statement?

Well, isn't factoring out exception processing part of what PEP 343 is for?

Simply make sure the generator is closed promptly

def main_generator(): ... with closing(sub_generator()) as gen: for value in gen: continue yield value

Or throw the real exception to the nested generator

class throw_to(object): def init(self, gen): self.gen = gen def enter(self): return self.gen def exit(self, exc_type, *exc_details): if exc_type is not None: try: self.gen.throw(exc_type, *exc_details) except StopIteration: pass

def main_generator(): ... with throw_to(sub_generator()) as gen: for value in gen: continue yield value

We can even limit the propagated exceptions to those

from the outside world and leave the rest alone

def main_generator(): ... gen = sub_generator() for value in gen: with throw_to(gen): input = yield value continue input

Thanks to Jason's other thread, I even have a hypothetical use case for all this. Specifically, "generator decorators", that manipulate the state that holds while executing the generator. Suppose I have a number of generators that I want to work in high precision decimal, but yield results with normal precision. Doing this dance manually in every generator would be a pain, so let's use a decorator:

  def precise_gen(gen_func):
     def wrapper(*args, **kwds):
         orig_ctx = decimal.getcontext()
         with orig_ctx as ctx:
             ctx.prec = HIGH_PRECISION
             gen = gen_func(*args, **kwds)
             for val in gen:
                 with orig_ctx:
                     val = +val
                     try:
                         yield val
                     except:
                         gen.throw() # make it default to sys.exc_info()
     wrapper.__name__ = gen_func.__name__
     wrapper.__dict__ = gen_func.__dict__
     wrapper.__doc__ = gen_func.__doc__
     return wrapper

So far, so good (although currently, unlike a raise statement, gen.throw() doesn't automatically default to sys.exc_info()). Tough luck, however, if you want to use this on a generator that accepts input values - those inputs will get dropped on the floor by the wrapper, and the wrapped generator will never see them.

"yield from" wouldn't help in the least, because there are other things going on in the for loop containing the yield statement. 'continue with argument', however, would work just fine:

  def precise_gen(gen_func):
     def wrapper(*args, **kwds):
         orig_ctx = decimal.getcontext()
         with orig_ctx as ctx:
             ctx.prec = HIGH_PRECISION
             gen = gen_func(*args, **kwds)
             for val in gen:
                 with orig_ctx:
                     val = +val
                     try:
                         continue yield val
                     except:
                         gen.throw() # make it default to sys.exc_info()
     wrapper.__name__ = gen_func.__name__
     wrapper.__dict__ = gen_func.__dict__
     wrapper.__doc__ = gen_func.__doc__
     return wrapper

Now an arbitrary generator can be decorated with "@precise_gen", and it's internal operations will be carried out with high precision, while any interim results will be yielded using the caller's precision and the caller's rounding rules.

Cheers, Nick.

[1] http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-dev/2005-October/057410.html

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