[Python-Dev] pep-3108.txt (original) (raw)

Steve Holden steve at holdenweb.com
Thu Jan 4 21:38:40 CET 2007

Brett Cannon wrote: [ ... ]

Yep. PEP 3108 does have some basic package suggestions in the Open Issues section and people seem to support them. I will be making a separate push for them on python-3000 once the whole discussion of what modules to remove has settled down.

Then again, the post is from 2002 - so things may have changed.

Maybe. There have been a couple of attempts to reorg the stdlib into packages, but AFAIR, I see, all of them were withdrawn due to the problem of finding a suitable grouping (often enough, a module would be suitable for more than just one functional package, e.g. urllib would fit "io" as well as "net") or lack of support from the developers. Yep, that's what has happened.

I can't believe that we need to be flummoxed by the necessity of having the same package appear at two (or more!) different places in the package naming hierarchy. I suspect lack of support is more due to developers feeling there are more profitable ways to spend their time.

Now that we're discussing moving the include files into a subdirectory (for much the same reasons), I think it's time to reboot the discussion of a Python package with or without possible subpackages.

Well, perhaps other people want to show support if they like the idea? I am personally split down the middle either way. It would be an excellent idea to clean up the standard library space. It should be possible in most cases to provide backwards-compatible implementations of the current modules (at least the pure Python ones) by doing an import * from the appropriate new-style package.

Some such compatibility mechanism will be essential if the re-org is to happen in an acceptable way before Py3k.

regards Steve

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