[Python-Dev] unscriptable? (original) (raw)

Nick Coghlan ncoghlan at gmail.com
Sun Apr 20 03:03:21 CEST 2008

Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:

Steven writes: > On Sat, 19 Apr 2008 22:13:19 +1000 > Nick Coghlan <ncoghlan at gmail.com> wrote: > > > Being indexable is subtly different from being subscriptable - the > > former has stronger connotations of numeric indices and sequence-like > > behaviour

> With my maths background, I would expect that subscripts are (almost) > always numeric, e.g. x-subscript-i means the i-th x value, where i > is a natural number. I don't think you can get general agreement on which tend to connote numerical indicies more.

Indices and arrays go hand-in-hand for me (probably due to my signal processing background) and I believe PEP 357's choice of index for sequence indexing made that association reasonably official in Python terms.

On the other hand, in many contexts "index" is a general concept, while "subscript" is a typographical convention for representing an index.

Granted, but the latter is explicitly used as the general term for sequence indexing and mapping in the relevant section of the language reference [1]. So specifically in the context of Python, the error message from 'int' is absolutely correct, and the error message from 'set' isn't technically wrong either (although perhaps not quite as correct as it could be).

To suggest yet another colour for the bikeshed, maybe we should ditch both unindexable and unsubscriptable and go with "'int' is not a sequence or mapping". Any object which supports subscript notation will be one or the other.

Cheers, Nick.

[1] http://docs.python.org/dev/reference/expressions.html#id7

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