[Python-Dev] Looking after the buildbots (in general) (original) (raw)

Steve Holden steve at holdenweb.com
Wed Aug 4 21:55:30 CEST 2010

On 8/4/2010 2:57 PM, "Martin v. Löwis" wrote:

This whole discussion seems to make it clear that the release manager procedures are still ill-defined in certain areas. No. It rather makes clear that people who never had the role of release manager

Otherwise a release manager could proceed by reading a web page an even, heaven help us, following specific links to ensure particular actions were taken. When Barry had the keys to the time machine, he wrote PEP 101, to give you a web page with specific links in it: http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0101/ But I see rules being established ("there's a language moratorium: no changes!", "no release should be made unless the buildbots are all green") and then ignored apparently on a whim. What makes you say that? Establishing comprehensive procedures can be as difficult as programming, though, and requires skills that have eluded me through a fairly lengthy technical career. So it also boils down to shortage of manpower of a particular kind. People with programming skill would, understandably, rather invest their time in something they are good at. I think you are belittling the contributions of past and present release managers. I'd prefer to say I was displaying my ignorance.

regards Steve

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