[Python-Dev] Removing IDLE from the standard library (original) (raw)

Bill Janssen janssen at parc.com
Mon Jul 12 17:44:10 CEST 2010

Stephen Hansen <apt.shansen at gmail.com> wrote:

On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 4:53 PM, Steve Holden <steve at holdenweb.com> wrote:

> Stephen Hansen wrote: > > On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 9:23 PM, Guilherme Polo <ggpolo at gmail.com_ _> > <mailto:ggpolo at gmail.com>> wrote: > > > > By "never had a problem" do you mean using some of the latest > versions > > ? Here, running "idle" from a mac terminal and trying to type: print > > "hi" crashes when entering the quotation mark. > > > > > > Huh? Works fine for me. Python 2.6.1, OSX 10.6.3, intel. > > > One of the good things about the python-dev community is its commitment > to test-driven development. If you are prepared to define "fine" as > 'successfully runs 'print "hello"'' then I guess we should be > perfectly happy about IDLE. > Er, how hostile. My point is, the poster made an assertion-- that you couldn't do the simple act as launching idle from a command line, and printing Hi. Maybe they can't, I have no idea. I know I can. I know that I have also opened random python files, saved them, and ran them with IDLE. I don't use IDLE beyond that though: I live in TextMate on my mac. My point was not, "IDLE is perfect". My point was, "You've claimed you can't even print out a word in IDLE, so its utterly and completely non-functional" -- and that assertion surprises me and I challenge.

Steve, you encouraged me to try it again. From an xterm on OS X 10.5.8, it launches fine (long as you know where it is -- /System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/Current/bin/idle). Seems to work OK for what it is, too. Same for Terminal. When I start it from the shell buffer in Cocoa GNU Emacs, though, the idle window pops up under the Emacs window, which is why I didn't see it over the weekend.

Bill

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