[Python-Dev] Python Library Support in 3.x (Was: email package status in 3.X) (original) (raw)

Jesse Noller jnoller at gmail.com
Sun Jun 20 21:59:49 CEST 2010

On Sun, Jun 20, 2010 at 12:00 PM, Steve Holden <steve at holdenweb.com> wrote: ...snip

Given the amount of interest this thread has generated I can't help wondering why it isn't more prominent in python.org content. Is the developer community completely disjoint with the web content editor community?

Yes.

If there is such a disconnect we should think about remedying it: a large "Python 2 or 3?" button could link to a reasoned discussion of the pros and cons as evinced in this thread. That way people will end up with the right version more often (and be writing Python 2 that will more easily migrate to Python 3, if they cannot yet use 3).

Yes; the website needs to change.

There seems to be a perception that the PSF can help fund developments, and indeed Jesse Noller has made a small start with his sprint funding proposal (which now has some funding behind it). I think if it is to do so the Foundation will have to look for substantial new funding. I do not currently understand where this funding would come from, and would like to tap your developer creativity in helping to define how the Foundation can effectively commit more developer time to Python.

The good news is that I've already had a few potential companies approach me to inquire as to the possibility of sponsoring porting sprints for specific itches they have. I am going to continue to encourage this on my end, as well as redirecting them to direct PSF donations as they arise.

I suspect; if we were to keep pushing the concept of sponsored sprints / bounties on Python 3 library porting, we could see things pick up donation wise. I've long suspected that there are companies out there who do have funds, but lack a target, and don't see a general PSF donation as directly beneficial to their goals (although we will continue to work to convince them otherwise).

GSoC and GHOP are great examples, but there is plenty of room for all sorts of initiatives that result in development opportunities. I'd like to help.

Quick, off the seat of my pants idea - let's start by encouraging and advertising sponsored sprints in the vein I've outlined in my existing approved proposal. Once we know how to allow companies to donate directly into a fund for direct improvement / porting, we provide them a target which allows them to see measurable outcomes.

Just a thought

Jesse

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