[Python-Dev] Bootstrap script for package management tool in Python 2.7 (Was: Re: [Distutils] At least one package management tool for 2.7) (original) (raw)

anatoly techtonik techtonik at gmail.com
Mon Mar 29 09:30:03 CEST 2010

So, there won't be any package management tool shipped with Python 2.7 and users will have to download and install setuptools manually as before:

"search" -> "download" -> "unzip" -> "cmd" -> "cd" -> "python setup.py install"

Therefore I still propose shipping bootstrap package that instruct user how to download and install an actual package management tool when users tries to use it. So far I know only one stable tool - easy_install - a part of setuptools package.

The required behavior for very basic user friendliness:

  1. user installs Python 2.7

  2. user issues python -m easy_install something

  3. user gets message 'easy_install' tool is not installed on this system. To make it available, download and install setuptools package from http://pypi.python.org/pypi/setuptools/

  4. the screen is paused before exit (for windows systems)

Other design notes:

  1. if package tries to import easy_install module used for bootstrap, it gets the same ImportException as if there were no easy_install at all
  2. bootstrap module is overwritten by actual package when users installs it

So, do we need a PEP for that? How else can I know if consensus is reached? Anybody is willing to elaborate on implementation?

P.S. Please be careful to reply to relevant lists

anatoly t.

On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 9:37 AM, Tarek Ziadé <ziade.tarek at gmail.com> wrote:

2010/3/29 anatoly techtonik <techtonik at gmail.com>: [..]

It is really hard to follow. You should at least change subjects when switching topic. I was talking about the work going on and the decisions taken lately. I never change topics of threads mails when there's less than 100 mails, because I find it way more confusing :)

So, what is the verdict? Will there be a package management tool or bootstrap package for it shipped with Python 2.7 or not? As I said in the mail you've quoted, all improvements are made in Distutils2. So the answer is no. Python 2.7b1 is due in less than a week anyways, so any new development on this topic will happen after. Basically Python 2.7 == Python 2.6 in term of packaging. Regards Tarek -- Tarek Ziadé | http://ziade.org

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