[Python-Dev] PEP 433: Choose the default value of the new cloexec parameter (original) (raw)

Ralf Schmitt ralf at systemexit.de
Mon Jan 28 22:27:54 CET 2013

"R. David Murray" <rdmurray at bitdance.com> writes:

On Sun, 27 Jan 2013 21:56:06 +0100, Ralf Schmitt <ralf at systemexit.de> wrote:

"R. David Murray" <rdmurray at bitdance.com> writes:

> On Sun, 27 Jan 2013 19:42:59 +0100, Ralf Schmitt <ralf at systemexit.de> wrote: >> Guido van Rossum <guido at python.org> writes: >> >> > It's like calling socket.settimeout(0.1) and then complaining that >> > urllib.urlopen() raises exceptions >> >> but that's not what's happening. you'll see urllib.urlopen raising >> exceptions and only afterwards realize that you called into some third >> party library code that decided to change the timeout. > > What is stopping some some third party library code from calling > socket.settimeout(0.1)? Nothing. That's the point. You just wonder why urlopen fails when the global timeout has been changed by that third party library. Oh, you were agreeing with Guido? I guess I misunderstood.

no. I think it's rather surprising if your code depends on some global variable that might change by calling into some third party code.

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