[Python-ideas] Documenting Python warts (original) (raw)

Oleg Broytman phd at phdru.name
Wed Jan 2 04:08:51 CET 2013

On Tue, Jan 01, 2013 at 04:54:34PM -0800, alex23 <wuwei23 at gmail.com> wrote:

The pain people are experiencing with "warts" like mutable defaults is entirely from trying to force Python to fit mental models they've constructed of other languages.

Yes. And preserving this mental model is important. There is a common mental model for similar imperative languages, common set of built-in types (chars, strings, integers, floats) and containers (arrays and matrices), common set of operations (addition is always spelled as infix 'plus' sign, logical AND -- as '&' or '&&'); there are functions with parameters -- usually written inside round parentheses; in object-oriented languages there are classes with inheritance... So it's perfectly natural when people using one language expect features found in other languages, and expect those features to work in similar ways. Sure, every particular language deviate from that common model. Often people can tolerate the deviation, sometimes they even praise it for some reasons. But when a deviation makes pain for too many developers -- there is certainly a problem.

Oleg.

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