[Pythonmac-SIG] py2app standalone options (original) (raw)

has hengist.podd at virgin.net
Fri Dec 17 00:00:06 CET 2004

Bob wrote:

Because I don't care about your use case. It's rare and is very often not what people want.

How rare? Rare enough that I can't justify writing the code and adding yet another option. If you don't need a redistributable application, then use an alias bundle. If you want a redistributable application, then include the dependencies.

If you were writing py2app simply to please yourself I wouldn't bother raising the issue, but since you intend it to replace BundleBuilder in the standard distribution I can't really see "I don't care about your use case" being sufficient justification for such a design decision. You've just spent weeks, if not months, designing and constructing py2app - a not insignificant piece of software engineering. I'd be rather surprised if it'd take you more than a few minutes to insert an option that bypasses the modulegraph component at the point where it connects to the rest of py2app, assuming a properly-factored, maintainable design.

As to what I want: I would like a really quick, easy way to churn out lightweight distributable applets that don't lug around stuff they don't need to. BundleBuilder has no problem doing this; heck, even a crap language like AppleScript can do it. Is it really py2app's place to dictate to users how they should or shouldn't build THEIR apps? Personally, if I want py2app to resolve and include my applications' dependencies, I shall be only too happy to ask it to do so. But if I don't, I'd appreciate it minding its own business respecting that choice. (And no, forcing me to manually resolve and manually exclude all my applications' dependencies for it doesn't count.)

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On a separate issue, I've noticed the semi-standalone option appears to be buggy in 0.1.6. When I set it to true, py2app correctly omits standard modules and extensions from Resources/Python, but is still including the core Python.framework. I'm running MacPython 2.3.3 under OS 10.2.8. If you want the build logs and/or finished application bundles, let me know and I'll email them over.

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