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• Royal Thames Yacht Club flag
• Admiral's Distinguishing Flag
• Commodore's Flag
• Vice Commodore's Flag
• Rear Commodore's Flag
• Patron's Flag
• Burgee
• Burgees 1775 - 1842
• Cumberland Fleet pennant

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• British yacht clubs and sailing clubs index
• United Kingdom

Royal Thames Yacht Club flag

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The club's original ensign from the year 1775 is a plain white ensign.
Clay Moss, 27 May 2019

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In 1830 the club, without authorisation, used a white flag with a Union canton and the initials R T Y C in red on the fly.

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In 1835: �Whereas we deem it expedient that the Royal Thames Yacht Club shall be permitted to wear the distinguishing flag described in the following page: We do, therefore, therefore by virtue of the power and authority vested in us, hereby warrant and authorise the said flag to be worn on board the respective vessels of the Royal Thames Yacht Club accordingly. Given under our hand and the Seal of the Office of the Admiralty the 19th day of February 1835.
J.P.Beresford, Ashley.
An Union Jack and crown with the letters R.T.Y.C. in red.�

From this, the colour of the ensign is not clear, but it must have been white, as a subsequent letter dated 22 July 1842 , includes, �...vessels belonging to the Royal Thames Yacht Club shall be permitted to wear the blue ensign of Her Majesty�s fleet on board their respective vessels, with the distinctive marks of the club, as hitherto worn on the white ensign, ...�

The change to plain Blue Ensign was by warrant dated 24 July 1848.
David Prothero, 11 November 2014

For 153 years, The Royal Thames YC has used an undefacedBlue Ensign (without any badge). The Royal Thames is one of the first clubs to use the plain blue ensign, and the club's use of the flag is indeed well known in yachting circles. Since 1848, the Royal Thames YC has been authorized to allow qualified members to use the undefaced blue ensign.

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The Club first used a plain white ensign, defaced with a club badge during the 1830s. Then, in 1842, the Admiralty decided that the White Ensign should be exclusive to the [Royal Yacht Squadron](gbyrys.html) (the nation's senior club). Thereafter, from mid-1842 until 1848, the Royal Thames YC used a blue ensign that was defaced in the fly with a crown (and I believe this was a red-colored depiction of the Royal crown).

In 1848, the club changed to a plain blue ensign, and this has remained the same ever since. I do not know the reason why the crown was removed in 1848. I do know that the plain blue ensign ranks higher in precedence than a defaced version.

Sources: Navy List 2001 page 243; Navy List 1995 page 260; Navy List 1989 page 298; Navy List 1973, page 599. Navy Lists of 1938 page 369; and 1927 page 364A. (all listing Royal Thames YC as using blue ensign undefaced).
James T. Liston, 9 December 2001

The Thames Yacht Club was formed in 1823 by a break-away group, when the Cumberland Sailing Society, established in 1775, was re-named His Majesty's Coronation Sailing Society. The Society's flag was white with a crimson border, royal crown, and lettering "G.R. IV Coronation Fleet".
[The King's Sailing Master by Douglas Dixon]
David Prothero, 26 December 2005

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In the Le Gras' Album 1858 the flag said to be used on the main mast is a swallow-tailed blue flag with a white cross and the crown in the centre. The crown is a generic one, shown in yellow with red lining. The red-only St Edwards crown is used nowadays, but this might have been a recent development.

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For the ensign, a defaced blue ensign is shown, with the same crown. According to James' account, this would have been correct for the period 1842-1848, when the crown was dropped for the plain blue ensign.
Željko Heimer, 17 June 2014

Admiral's Distinguishing Flag

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Swallowtail circa 4:9 and 4:4 to crutch (print image). Same design and colours as burgee, crown centred 1 unit from hoist.
Source: Phillips-Birt, Douglas. The Cumberland Fleet: Two Hundred Years of Yachting, 1775-1975. London, 1978.

"The Club has had many distinguished Flag Officers and traditionally the Commodore has been a member of the royal family. Earl Mountbatten was Commodore for 20 years and today the Club�s Commodore is HRH Prince Andrew, the Duke of York. Unusually among leading yacht clubs, the senior elected member and chairman of the Club is the Vice Commodore. The Patron of the Club is HRH the Duke of Edinburgh and the Admiral is HRH Prince Charles, the Prince of Wales."
Source: accessed 3 September 2018,https://www.royalthames.com/About-RTYC/Royal-Thames-History.aspx
Peter Edwards, 11 September 2018

Commodore's Flag

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Vice Commodore's Flag

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Rear Commodore's Flag

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Patron's Flag

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Burgee

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You can read all about England's oldest yacht club at:http://www.royalthames.com. The burgee on the website contains an all red crown.
Clay Moss, 29 May 2007

Royal Thames has a plain red St Edwards crown on the burgee and NOT a fully coloured version. Evidence for this is Rule 67.4 in my 1989 version of their rules. It states �The burgee shall be blue with a white St Georges cross and a red crown in the centre�.
Neil Freeman, 13 February 2009

Burgees 1775 - 1842

Note: All crowns illustrated in this source are St. Edward's.
Source: Phillips-Birt, Douglas. The Cumberland Fleet: Two Hundred Years of Yachting, 1775-1975. London, 1978.
Peter Edwards, 11 September 2018

1775-1823

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Pennant circa 5:6 (print image). White field superimposed by a red St. George's cross, centred 2 units from hoist (horizontal arm 4 units and vertical arm 3 units).
Peter Edwards, 11 September 2018

1823

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Pennant circa 5:6 (print image). White field fimbriated red on three sides charged (towards the hoist) by a red crown above the red letters GRIV and (towards the fly point) the word CORONATION above the word FLEET, both in red.
Peter Edwards, 11 September 2018

1823-1830

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Pennant: circa 5:6 (print image). Red field charged by the white capital letters TYC.
Peter Edwards, 11 September 2018

1831-1834

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Pennant circa 5:6 (print image). Red field charged by a white crown above the capital letters RTYC.
Peter Edwards, 11 September 2018

1834-1842

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Pennant circa 5:6 (print image). White field charged by a red crown above the red capital letters RTYC.
Peter Edwards, 11 September 2018

Cumberland Fleet pennant

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Details about the Cumberland Fleet are athttps://www.royalthames.com/About-RTYC/Royal-Thames-History.aspx
Clay Moss, 29 May 2019