Please help me to make proper sense of some of the differences (original) (raw)

Please help me to make proper sense of some of the differences in the following two passages:

Matthew 24:15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)

16 Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:

Mark 13:14 But when ye shall see the abominationof desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing whereit ought not, (let him that readeth understand,) then let them that be in Judaea flee to the mountains:

Is the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, referring to the following?

Daniel 11:31 And arms shall stand on his part, and they shall pollute the sanctuary of strength, and shall take away the daily sacrifice, and they shall place the abomination that maketh desolate.

  1. What is the difference between, "of desolation", and, "maketh desolate"?

Is it simply the difference between what the abomination is or what the abomination does?

Or is the difference revealing even something more about the abomination?

  1. What is the abomination?

Is this a "something", and not a "someone"?

Isn't this referred to in Mark as, "it", not, "he", i.e. "standing where it ought not"?

  1. Is the abomination an idol or a graven image?

Both in Matthew and Mark it says that the abomination stands, not sits, or lays, or moves?

In Daniel it says the abomination is placed?

Isn't it something that is looked at?

  1. To whom is this an abomination?

Only to the LORD?

Or does that also include Hebrew believers in Jesus, at that time?

Or does that include unsaved Hebrews, at that time?

Or does it include anyone who will not be worshipping the beast, at that time?

  1. What is the difference between, ("ye", "them", and "him/whoso"), or what different groups are those referred to by that?

The, "ye", are not the disciples that were there for the Olivet discourse?

The, "ye", will be in the tribulation, and not in 70 AD?

The, "ye", shall see the abomination, so that's not referring to Gentiles or Gentile believers?

The, "ye", shall see the abomination, but the, "them", are to flee - "ye" is 2nd person plural, but "them" is 3rd person plural?

The, "ye", and the, "them", are not the same people (one group sees, but the other group flees)?

Will the, "ye", be in Jerusalem, but the, "them", will be in Judaea, outside of Jerusalem?

Those in the Judaea countryside are to flee to the mountains, but the residents of Jerusalem remain within the city?

Will the, "them", be unsaved Hebrews during the tribulation?

However, does not the, "him/whoso", refer to yet a third group?

Are the, "him/whoso", those who read the Matthew and Mark passages?

If so, then are they believers, rather than unsaved Hebrews?

Will they be Hebrew believers during the tribulation?

  1. Where will the abomination be placed?

Matthew says, "in the holy place", will that be:

in the temple (rebuilt)?

in the place of the temple, where the table of shewbread and the golden candlestick were to go?

in the most holy place of the temple, where the ark had been?

in the tabernacle of David that will be raised up again?

on the temple mount, where the temple had been?

Mark says, "where it ought not":

Does that imply that if it stood somewhere else, it wouldn't be an abomination?

Or does that mean, that if it stood somewhere else, that it wouldn't make desolate?

What is the, "sanctuary of strength", that Daniel mentions?

If it is the temple (rebuilt?), why is it referred to as, "of strength"?

Daniel mentions that it will be polluted (by the abomination?), does that imply the temple (rebuilt?) or tabernacle of David?

  1. If this is to be in a rebuilt temple, who could "see" an abomination there?

If it is without, or even in the court of the Gentiles, then the Gentiles could see it, but not if it is within?

If it is within, then only Hebrews could see it?

If it is inside, where the table of shewbread and candlestick would go, then only priests could see it?

If it is within, where the ark had been, only the high priest could see it, and only on the day of atonement?

Would cameras be allowed to be mounted within a rebuilt temple, for any, and all, to be able to see inside, at any time?

  1. What does desolate refer to?

Will no one be there, after the abomination is placed?

Will Hebrews no longer be there / go there, after the abomination is placed?

Will something happen to cause the place to be devoid even also of plants and animals, as well as people?

It cannot be referring to the LORD's presence no longer being there?