The Encyclopedia of Arda - Iarwain Ben-adar (original) (raw)

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Dates Probably immortal - certainly very old indeed Race Unknown1 Pronunciation ya'rwine be'n-a'dar Meaning iarwain means 'old-young',2 ben-adar means 'fatherless'3 Other names Forn, Orald, Tom Bombadil Indexes: Alphabetical: I Miscellaneous Races About this entry: Updated 1 June 2008 This entry is complete Oldest and Fatherless The name used among the Elves for the being known to the Hobbits as Tom Bombadil. It seems that Tom's origins were as mysterious to the Elves as to the other peoples of Middle-earth. Elrond recalled encountering him in ages past,4 but even to an Elf born in the First Age, Tom - or Iarwain - was considered astonishingly old. The name Iarwain Ben-adar is approximately equivalent to 'Oldest and Fatherless', though actually iarwain seems to literally mean 'old-young': that is, though truly ancient, Tom still appeared relatively young in years. Ben-adar means simply 'fatherless'. Notes 1 The race to which this being belonged - if any - is a difficult and unresolved question. For a fuller treatment of this issue, see the entry for Tom Bombadil. 2 In general form, iarwain looks to be translatable as 'oldest', and indeed the phrase 'Iarwain Ben-adar' is apparently translated by Elrond as 'Oldest and Fatherless' in the text of The Lord of the Rings (in The Fellowship of the Ring II 2, The Council of Elrond), so a meaning of 'oldest' seems a natural assumption. However, Tolkien himself gives the meaning as 'old-young', so perhaps Elrond was concerned to give this unusual term a straightforwardly comprehensible translation, rather than straying into the explanation it would otherwise have needed. 3 The Elvish prefix ben- means 'without', and adar is 'father', so the name 'Ben-adar' literally means 'without a father'. Variants of the adar element of this name is fairly common in other names, too. It appears as atar, for example, in Ilúvatar 'father of all' and Atanatári 'Fathers of Men'. 4 Elrond was born shortly before the end of the First Age, and there's no record of his having passed east of the Blue Mountains until after the end of that Age. Most likely, he encountered Tom in the early Second Age, before the great forests of Eriador had been felled by the Númenóreans. So, when he recalled meeting Iarwain among those woods, he was thinking back to a meeting that took place (very roughly) 5,500 years in the past. See also... Oldest and Fatherless, Tom Bombadil Indexes: Alphabetical: I Miscellaneous Races About this entry: Updated 1 June 2008 This entry is complete For acknowledgements and references, see the Disclaimer & Bibliography page. Original content © copyright Mark Fisher 1998, 2001, 2008. All rights reserved. For conditions of reuse, see the Site FAQ. Website services kindly sponsored by Discus from Axiom Software Ltd.Discus identifies 27 distinct roles within a team, based on members' individual DISC profiles.

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Dates Probably immortal - certainly very old indeed Race Unknown1 Pronunciation ya'rwine be'n-a'dar Meaning iarwain means 'old-young',2 ben-adar means 'fatherless'3 Other names Forn, Orald, Tom Bombadil Indexes: Alphabetical: I Miscellaneous Races About this entry: Updated 1 June 2008 This entry is complete Oldest and Fatherless The name used among the Elves for the being known to the Hobbits as Tom Bombadil. It seems that Tom's origins were as mysterious to the Elves as to the other peoples of Middle-earth. Elrond recalled encountering him in ages past,4 but even to an Elf born in the First Age, Tom - or Iarwain - was considered astonishingly old. The name Iarwain Ben-adar is approximately equivalent to 'Oldest and Fatherless', though actually iarwain seems to literally mean 'old-young': that is, though truly ancient, Tom still appeared relatively young in years. Ben-adar means simply 'fatherless'. Notes 1 The race to which this being belonged - if any - is a difficult and unresolved question. For a fuller treatment of this issue, see the entry for Tom Bombadil. 2 In general form, iarwain looks to be translatable as 'oldest', and indeed the phrase 'Iarwain Ben-adar' is apparently translated by Elrond as 'Oldest and Fatherless' in the text of The Lord of the Rings (in The Fellowship of the Ring II 2, The Council of Elrond), so a meaning of 'oldest' seems a natural assumption. However, Tolkien himself gives the meaning as 'old-young', so perhaps Elrond was concerned to give this unusual term a straightforwardly comprehensible translation, rather than straying into the explanation it would otherwise have needed. 3 The Elvish prefix ben- means 'without', and adar is 'father', so the name 'Ben-adar' literally means 'without a father'. Variants of the adar element of this name is fairly common in other names, too. It appears as atar, for example, in Ilúvatar 'father of all' and Atanatári 'Fathers of Men'. 4 Elrond was born shortly before the end of the First Age, and there's no record of his having passed east of the Blue Mountains until after the end of that Age. Most likely, he encountered Tom in the early Second Age, before the great forests of Eriador had been felled by the Númenóreans. So, when he recalled meeting Iarwain among those woods, he was thinking back to a meeting that took place (very roughly) 5,500 years in the past. See also... Oldest and Fatherless, Tom Bombadil Indexes: Alphabetical: I Miscellaneous Races About this entry: Updated 1 June 2008 This entry is complete For acknowledgements and references, see the Disclaimer & Bibliography page. Original content © copyright Mark Fisher 1998, 2001, 2008. All rights reserved. For conditions of reuse, see the Site FAQ. Website services kindly sponsored by Discus from Axiom Software Ltd.Discus identifies 27 distinct roles within a team, based on members' individual DISC profiles.