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An independent forum for a critical discussion of the integral philosophy of Ken Wilber
David Long is an Integral Philosopher, Film Maker, Author, Life Coach, Artist, Musician, Producer, Emcee, rEvolutionary, and a Vegan. He makes videos teaching Integral Theory and is a critical member of the integral community. See his website: www.iam-davidlong.com. He also has a YouTube channel "I AM - David Long" with many video interviews.
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David Long
Last year, Jordan Peterson has debated with Sam Harris.[1] Ken Wilber has given his view on Jordan Peterson recently and has called him an "integral" thinker. David Long, in his own inimitable way, gives a fresh perspective on these contemporary philosophers—often siding with Harris. Says Long: Not only is Peterson not "integral", properly speaking, but even Ken Wilber sometimes doesn't meet his own standards!
David Long: “Ken Wilber betrays the Integral Model because of his bias.”
Table 1. Points of Criticism Raised by David Long
| JORDAN PETERSON | KEN WILBER |
|---|---|
| Inconsistent & Incoherent Standards | Inconsistent Application |
| Over-Emphasis on the LL Quadrant | Unhealthy Relationship with Science |
| Over-Emphasis on Christianity | Literal/Dogmatic Eastern Worldview |
| No Trans-Personal View | Pre/Trans Fallacy #2 |
| Convoluted & Weaselly Speech | Lack of Intellectual Humility |
| Confused about Hierarchy | Perverted Hierarchy |
| Developmentally Regressive | Over-Emphasis on Translation |
Table 2. Predominant Focus of Wilber, Peterson and Harris According to the Four Quadrants
| INTERIORITY | EXTERIORITY |
|---|---|
| UPPER-LEFT **KEN WILBERHigher States,Development | UPPER & LOWERRIGHT-HANDQUADRANTS SAM HARRISNeurology,Science,Objectivity,Facts |
| LOWER-LEFT JORDAN PETERSONConservative Values,Christianity |
NOTES
[1] "Sam Harris vs. Jordan Peterson, Moderated by Brett Weinstein", Pangburn Philosophy., Vancouver, BC, June 23rd, 2018.
[2] "Ken Wilber: Jordan Peterson and the evolution of thought", Rebel Wisdom, www.youtube.com, 27 Feb 2019.