| msg392978 - (view) |
Author: Jürgen Gmach (jugmac00) * |
Date: 2021-05-05 06:55 |
| Yesterday, I was bitten by ConfigParser' default behavior to lowercase keys on reading. When I looked in the documentation and the source code, I found that lowercase was sometimes written as "lower-case", e.g. here https://docs.python.org/3/library/configparser.html#configparser.ConfigParser.optionxform The webster dictionary only accepts "lowercase" as a valid English word: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/lowercase Before I wanted to create a pull request for this one, I also grepped the complete source code with the following result: lower-case 24 lowercase 207 upper-case 9 uppercase 201 I'd like to create a pull request which canonicalizes the writing to a consistent "lowercase" resp. "uppercase". Is there any core dev out there willing to review / merge this kind of PR? |
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| msg393065 - (view) |
Author: Eric V. Smith (eric.smith) *  |
Date: 2021-05-06 07:07 |
| I think we'd want to look at the 33 uses with hyphens to make sure removing the hyphen is correct (as opposed to just blindly make a change). But I'm generally supportive. |
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| msg393217 - (view) |
Author: Éric Araujo (eric.araujo) * |
Date: 2021-05-07 20:17 |
| I don’t think that there is a problem to be fixed. Separated «lower case» could be unfriendly, but the hyphen is there in the adjective forms so it seems that changing these instances would add churn for no benefit. |
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| msg393227 - (view) |
Author: Jürgen Gmach (jugmac00) * |
Date: 2021-05-07 22:06 |
| I did some more research. It looks like US English tends to use `lowercase`, while British English tends to `lower case`, and as an alternative to `lowercase` you can also use `lower-case` when using it as an adjective. See also https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/lowercase So, to wrap up: - you could use lowercase and uppercase as a noun, as an adjective and as a verb - you can use lower case and upper case only as a noun - you can use lower-case and upper-case only as an adjective If that is true - I am no native English speaker, and Éric does not like to convert them all to single words, it gets a bit tougher. Some - to me - obvious wrong usages would be: "All IMAP4rev1 commands are supported by methods of the same name (in lower-case)." => in lower case or in lowercase "All POP3 commands are represented by methods of the same name, in lower-case; most return the response text sent by the server." => in lower case or in lowercase "Wrapper around a file that converts output to upper-case." => to upper case or to uppercase "Return a new UUID, in the format that MSI typically requires (i.e. in curly braces, and with all hexdigits in upper-case)." => in upper case or in uppercase "Hostnames are compared lower case." => lower-case or lowercase Éric, are you ok with my suggested changes or do you want me to close the issue? |
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| msg393229 - (view) |
Author: Eric V. Smith (eric.smith) * |
Date: 2021-05-07 22:18 |
| That's exactly the kind of manual check I had in mind. After all "anal retentive doesn't have a hyphen unless it's used as a compound adjective". I think we should go with "lowercase" when a noun, and "lower-case" as an adjective. |
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| msg393248 - (view) |
Author: Jürgen Gmach (jugmac00) * |
Date: 2021-05-08 09:31 |
| Thank you for the feedback. I created a PR. |
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| msg393284 - (view) |
Author: Andrei Kulakov (andrei.avk) *  |
Date: 2021-05-08 20:49 |
| https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/lower-case lists lower-case as a valid variant for nouns as well as adjectives. |
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| msg393292 - (view) |
Author: Eric V. Smith (eric.smith) * |
Date: 2021-05-09 02:38 |
| The stdlib seems to have settled on lowercase for the noun version, though. My two cents: no sense not being consist just because lower-case might also work. |
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| msg393293 - (view) |
Author: Andrei Kulakov (andrei.avk) * |
Date: 2021-05-09 02:40 |
| On Sat, May 8, 2021 at 10:38 PM Eric V. Smith <report@bugs.python.org> wrote: > > Eric V. Smith <eric@trueblade.com> added the comment: > > The stdlib seems to have settled on lowercase for the noun version, > though. My two cents: no sense not being consist just because lower-case > might also work. > Sounds good to me, I'm not opposed to consistency! |
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| msg394689 - (view) |
Author: Joannah Nanjekye (nanjekyejoannah) * |
Date: 2021-05-28 20:54 |
| New changeset 2138b2edaf5acb3b9c162a9ba620923e286239a8 by Jürgen Gmach in branch 'main': bpo-44045: fix spelling of uppercase vs upper-case (GH-25985) https://github.com/python/cpython/commit/2138b2edaf5acb3b9c162a9ba620923e286239a8 |
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