Last Rant for 42 Miles' Journal (original) (raw)

	[15 Sep 2013\|03:23pm]
i am in a manedit: ohhhh this is fun. sorry to concern you all. I was, uh, drunk-posting I guess? Either way, glad to see some of you still remember. Forever.
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Shutting it down or valid contribution?	[21 Apr 2013\|05:55pm]
I was directed over here by the FFR mods, so hello! My complaint over at FFR is that I keep seeing people post a rant and then in the comments there are people sort of derailing discussions by stating that people should just read something else or that authors have a right to write whatever they want. The implication being that the OP has no right to rant or shouldn't have bothered posting to the comm.To me, the point of fanficrants is to rant about fanfic that is annoying/frustrating to a reader and to be able to talk about it with other people (whether they agree or not). To have people respond with "well stop being annoyed/frustrated, do something else, just use the back button" is really problematic for me. I find this annoying at best and incredibly silencing/insulting at the worst. They're not even saying that they personally like whatever the OP is ranting about, they're basically telling them to shut up.And it just rubs me the wrong way. I couldn't find the essay I wanted to link to, but it describes how aggravating it can be to talk about something that troubles you and to have people be very dismissive of it. For example, person A has just been called a jerk by a random stranger. Person A goes to Person B and tells them about what happened. Person B responds with, "maybe they were just having a bad day." Or "maybe you shouldn't walk down that street anymore, there are other streets." Or "there's no law saying people can't call you that, ya know." It's very dismissive of Person A's feelings/opinions, as well as a bit condescending. As if Person A doesn't know that the other person could have been having a shitty day, that there are other streets, that there are no laws preventing insults. They know all that, they still would like to complain without being treated as if their thoughts and opinions are trivial.One thing that keeps getting repeated is that people can write whatever they want in response to a post on FFR, but my argument is that not all responses add value to the comm. I feel that people like Person B discourage discussion and may dissuade people from posting on FFR. It may seem silly to get upset when someone posts a rant about how they dislike the overuse of, say, pink dresses in fandom and have someone else respond "that's what the back button is for," but there you go! It just feels like it's part of the bigger problem of being dismissive without regard for the OP. Sometimes people just want to vent about that person who called them a jerk!I don't know if I explained this very well, but that's where I'm coming from. I had asked the mods to maybe make a PSA telling members that "just because it doesn't annoy you, doesn't mean it doesn't annoy someone else, please be respectful." I got shot down and directed over here, but just wanted to talk about my concerns. What does everyone else think?
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Shutting it down or valid contribution?

[21 Apr 2013|05:55pm]

I was directed over here by the FFR mods, so hello! My complaint over at FFR is that I keep seeing people post a rant and then in the comments there are people sort of derailing discussions by stating that people should just read something else or that authors have a right to write whatever they want. The implication being that the OP has no right to rant or shouldn't have bothered posting to the comm.To me, the point of fanficrants is to rant about fanfic that is annoying/frustrating to a reader and to be able to talk about it with other people (whether they agree or not). To have people respond with "well stop being annoyed/frustrated, do something else, just use the back button" is really problematic for me. I find this annoying at best and incredibly silencing/insulting at the worst. They're not even saying that they personally like whatever the OP is ranting about, they're basically telling them to shut up.And it just rubs me the wrong way. I couldn't find the essay I wanted to link to, but it describes how aggravating it can be to talk about something that troubles you and to have people be very dismissive of it. For example, person A has just been called a jerk by a random stranger. Person A goes to Person B and tells them about what happened. Person B responds with, "maybe they were just having a bad day." Or "maybe you shouldn't walk down that street anymore, there are other streets." Or "there's no law saying people can't call you that, ya know." It's very dismissive of Person A's feelings/opinions, as well as a bit condescending. As if Person A doesn't know that the other person could have been having a shitty day, that there are other streets, that there are no laws preventing insults. They know all that, they still would like to complain without being treated as if their thoughts and opinions are trivial.One thing that keeps getting repeated is that people can write whatever they want in response to a post on FFR, but my argument is that not all responses add value to the comm. I feel that people like Person B discourage discussion and may dissuade people from posting on FFR. It may seem silly to get upset when someone posts a rant about how they dislike the overuse of, say, pink dresses in fandom and have someone else respond "that's what the back button is for," but there you go! It just feels like it's part of the bigger problem of being dismissive without regard for the OP. Sometimes people just want to vent about that person who called them a jerk!I don't know if I explained this very well, but that's where I'm coming from. I had asked the mods to maybe make a PSA telling members that "just because it doesn't annoy you, doesn't mean it doesn't annoy someone else, please be respectful." I got shot down and directed over here, but just wanted to talk about my concerns. What does everyone else think?

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I think...	[04 Jan 2013\|02:33pm]
That theo_harrison deserves a donation of cookies (and perhaps soup, as I'm seeing mention of suffering from the flu) for having to deal with all this crap.The subject? Here, in too many threads to name (OP is not the problem).ETA to close a parenthesis and finish a sentence, oi.
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	[24 Sep 2012\|06:33pm]
So, it seems like there is a culture of saying whenever someone forgets to capitalize in a rant, or use punctuation properly, they are automatically stupid. I mean, this happens in a lot of areas on the internet, I'm only singling out FFR because people here usually don't like vast, sweeping generalizations like that. Here's why it bothers me.Right now I am making a conscious effort for capitalization, punctuation, etc. I have to do that for two reasons; the first is I have chronic wrist pain. One of the things is does to me, is makes it hurt to do lots of little motions with my dominant hand, rather than some bigger motions, so leaving out capital letters means it hurts less for me to type. I don't feel like this makes me rude, stupid or lazy. The other is just that my keyboards shift keys have a hard time working, so it can take five or ten tries to capitalize a word.I've seen it less these days, I just feel really uncomfortable whenever it comes up. I also understand that wrist pain isn't unique to me, and I'm sure plenty of people experience it and aren't affected the same way or are better at dealing with it.I guess the only thing that bothers me is people saying or implying that taking shortcuts when writing online, not using capitalization or using abbreviations sometimes, is necessarily, bad, insulting, or must be a reflection of their intelligence.Sorry if this is awkwardly worded, I get very formal when nervous.
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[24 Sep 2012|06:33pm]

So, it seems like there is a culture of saying whenever someone forgets to capitalize in a rant, or use punctuation properly, they are automatically stupid. I mean, this happens in a lot of areas on the internet, I'm only singling out FFR because people here usually don't like vast, sweeping generalizations like that. Here's why it bothers me.Right now I am making a conscious effort for capitalization, punctuation, etc. I have to do that for two reasons; the first is I have chronic wrist pain. One of the things is does to me, is makes it hurt to do lots of little motions with my dominant hand, rather than some bigger motions, so leaving out capital letters means it hurts less for me to type. I don't feel like this makes me rude, stupid or lazy. The other is just that my keyboards shift keys have a hard time working, so it can take five or ten tries to capitalize a word.I've seen it less these days, I just feel really uncomfortable whenever it comes up. I also understand that wrist pain isn't unique to me, and I'm sure plenty of people experience it and aren't affected the same way or are better at dealing with it.I guess the only thing that bothers me is people saying or implying that taking shortcuts when writing online, not using capitalization or using abbreviations sometimes, is necessarily, bad, insulting, or must be a reflection of their intelligence.Sorry if this is awkwardly worded, I get very formal when nervous.

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High spirits?	[21 Sep 2012\|08:48am]
More of a WTF moment than a full-blown rant, but author, I've never yet seen a whisky/whiskey bottle which needed to be opened with a corkscrew.....ETA - sorry,realised as my finger left the button that I'd posted this to the wrong comm.I don't want to incur modly wrath by deleting. I will try to make sure I nave more coffee before posting in future.
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	[20 Aug 2012\|10:01am]
[ mood \| disappointed ] Inspired by numerous rants past, recent past and probably future too.If people are interested in defending equality and diversity on the internet, that interest does not exist in the vacuum of the internet. I’m getting tired of people showing up on FFR using language which people point out is offensive and then saying, “You’re picking on this thing I said on the internet when there is real misogyny/homophobia/racism/classism/ableism in the world, why don’t you do something about that?”1. By pointing out that these things are offensive on the Internet, they are, by extension, pointing out that these things are offensive outside of the Internet. An awareness that there is a human being on the other side of the computer and multiple other human beings reading the exchanges not involved in the discussion pretty much guarantees that the message is being carried outside of the Internet, unless there is some ridiculous belief that we all forget what we see and read the second we disconnect.2. I can’t speak for everyone and I would suggest that a debate on language use on FFR is not the place to talk about what we are doing when we switch the Internet off, but I would assume that the people who are defending equality and diversity on the Internet carry that interest outside of the Internet and are doing whatever they can within their means and capabilities to defend equality and diversity when they are not sat at a computer. It is completely illogical to think that because a person has spent a tiny portion of their day calling out shit on the Internet that they then sit there and say “My work is done and I don’t need to pay attention to that stuff on the news now.”To summarise: If you use bigoted language on the Internet, you are likely to be a bigot when you switch the computer off; if you speak against bigoted language on the Internet, you are likely to be fighting these issues when you switch the computer off. Can this be the last I hear of the ‘bigger issues than the internet that you could be paying attention to’ line of defence for bigotry? I doubt it but I feel better for saying it.
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[20 Aug 2012|10:01am]

[ **mood** |

disappointed ] Inspired by numerous rants past, recent past and probably future too.If people are interested in defending equality and diversity on the internet, that interest does not exist in the vacuum of the internet. I’m getting tired of people showing up on FFR using language which people point out is offensive and then saying, “You’re picking on this thing I said on the internet when there is real misogyny/homophobia/racism/classism/ableism in the world, why don’t you do something about that?”1. By pointing out that these things are offensive on the Internet, they are, by extension, pointing out that these things are offensive outside of the Internet. An awareness that there is a human being on the other side of the computer and multiple other human beings reading the exchanges not involved in the discussion pretty much guarantees that the message is being carried outside of the Internet, unless there is some ridiculous belief that we all forget what we see and read the second we disconnect.2. I can’t speak for everyone and I would suggest that a debate on language use on FFR is not the place to talk about what we are doing when we switch the Internet off, but I would assume that the people who are defending equality and diversity on the Internet carry that interest outside of the Internet and are doing whatever they can within their means and capabilities to defend equality and diversity when they are not sat at a computer. It is completely illogical to think that because a person has spent a tiny portion of their day calling out shit on the Internet that they then sit there and say “My work is done and I don’t need to pay attention to that stuff on the news now.”To summarise: If you use bigoted language on the Internet, you are likely to be a bigot when you switch the computer off; if you speak against bigoted language on the Internet, you are likely to be fighting these issues when you switch the computer off. Can this be the last I hear of the ‘bigger issues than the internet that you could be paying attention to’ line of defence for bigotry? I doubt it but I feel better for saying it.

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	[16 Aug 2012\|12:48pm]
What is with all the trolling and rant deleting lately!?!Going so far as to delete not only your post but your whole journal (pearsnpears) after people disagree with your HDU treat people using slurs uncivilly post makes you look less like someone ignorant of the issues and more like a concern troll who couldn't take the heat.
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Stuck record/CD??	[16 Aug 2012\|12:30am]
It is not necessary answer every other comment with nearly the same comment. I know you have a point that you'd like to make -- and a rather interesting one, since it deals with the finer points of a canon I know barely anything about --, and there are some people who may not read every thread and every comment. But please, it is not necessary to post nearly the same comment with slightly different wording on at least three threads and then start a thread of your own with another permutation of the same comment. Otherwise, it makes for tedious reading, or it makes some readers feel like they're listening to a phonograph record or a CD with a stuck groove/stuck pits. Or a malfunctioning talking doll that keeps saying the same thing over and over and over again.Edited to add a preposition that I missed.Edited again to fix borked HTML. I think I'm going to bed...
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Stuck record/CD??

[16 Aug 2012|12:30am]

It is not necessary answer every other comment with nearly the same comment. I know you have a point that you'd like to make -- and a rather interesting one, since it deals with the finer points of a canon I know barely anything about --, and there are some people who may not read every thread and every comment. But please, it is not necessary to post nearly the same comment with slightly different wording on at least three threads and then start a thread of your own with another permutation of the same comment. Otherwise, it makes for tedious reading, or it makes some readers feel like they're listening to a phonograph record or a CD with a stuck groove/stuck pits. Or a malfunctioning talking doll that keeps saying the same thing over and over and over again.Edited to add a preposition that I missed.Edited again to fix borked HTML. I think I'm going to bed...

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Huh?	[29 Jul 2012\|05:01pm]
Did a post get deleted or something? One with pretty bad grammar and some skeevy wording?
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Magical disappearing rant?	[03 Jul 2012\|11:03pm]
So maybe twenty minutes ago there was a rant at the top of my flist along the lines of 'why do all fanfics have to include sex, what's wrong with platonic fluffiness!', posted recently enough that it had no comments yet. I refreshed my flist and poof, it disappeared! Which means either I am hallucinating livejournal posts or someone deleted their rant. :P Strange since it looked fairly innocuous to me and it can't have been up long enough to get much of a negative reaction. Did something happen there or did they just change their mind?
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Magical disappearing rant?

[03 Jul 2012|11:03pm]

So maybe twenty minutes ago there was a rant at the top of my flist along the lines of 'why do all fanfics have to include sex, what's wrong with platonic fluffiness!', posted recently enough that it had no comments yet. I refreshed my flist and poof, it disappeared! Which means either I am hallucinating livejournal posts or someone deleted their rant. :P Strange since it looked fairly innocuous to me and it can't have been up long enough to get much of a negative reaction. Did something happen there or did they just change their mind?

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	[13 Jun 2012\|08:57am]
[ mood \| confused ] Is it just me or did atomic-something just (about an hour ago) post to both fanficrants and ffrantsrants and then delete their whole journal? I though they were banned from ffr?
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Bwu- huh?	[10 Jun 2012\|12:59pm]
Excuse you, I was reading that! People were making good points about ~~summations~~ summary* (what the hell autocorrect?) left and right.A little refresh and the whole post went poofAnybody remember the username?*edited to put in the right word, disable autocorrect, and to add this note.
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Dear fanficrants,	[05 Jun 2012\|07:22pm]
Sometimes you tire me. Sometimes you frustrate me. Sometimes I go days without checking the community.But you know what? I am so, so glad that so many of us are in the "No, Steve Rogers is not an idiot" fan club. It makes me smile.With thanks,lady_ganesh
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Bwu- huh?	[10 Jun 2012\|12:59pm]
Excuse you, I was reading that! People were making good points about ~~summations~~ summary* (what the hell autocorrect?) left and right.A little refresh and the whole post went poofAnybody remember the username?*edited to put in the right word, disable autocorrect, and to add this note.
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