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A Mass of the Blessed Virgin Mary can be said on any Saturday in Ordinary Time where there is no other feast which precedes it, and it forms the basis of some of the Feasts of the Blessed Virgin, especially the minor ones without their own propers.

Apostolic Mass usually refers to a musical work by Adémar de Chabannes who composed a liturgy by that name to legitimise the claim that a favourite Saint of his was an Apostle. It might be used mistakenly to refer to a Pontifical High Mass, which is a Mass celebrated by a Pope.

It seems that the numbers are different settings of Mass or other works. A setting is a different set of music or chant for the same words.

Almost all composers since the Renaissance, when they published their musical works, have three masses: Missa Apostolica, Missa BVM, and Missa Domenica. I don't know when Missa Apostolica can be held.

Oh. That actually makes a difference. Missa Apostolica comes into English more usually as Mass of the (or an) Apostle(s), especially in the post-conciliar formulations. That's a Mass which would be used on the feast of any Apostle (and possibly, in the old books, on the feast of Ss Peter and Paul, but I'd have to check).

Sorry I didn't understand before, my liturgical knowledge is practical, not musical. I'm not surprised it was usual to compose Sunday Mass, a Mass of the Virgin, or a Mass of the Apostles, but that seems to leave out the Missa pro Defunctis, or the Requiem Mass. Was that less common, even if the ones that were written tend to be very well known?

I assume that the OP is talking about alternatim organ Masses (and Magnificats). Since Masses for the dead were penitential in character, the organ was forbidden.

Does this mass can also apply to St.Stephen and St. Mary Magdelene? Or it has to be for an apostle?

What is Missa pro Defunctis? I know composers who had composed it before, but do not know what it is for.

Just for Apostles. St. Stephen and St. Mary Magdalene aren't Apostles - their masses have proper prayers and St. Stephen's Preface would be from the Mass for a Martyr and St. Mary Magdalene from the Mass of Holy Women.

Missa Pro Defunctis is the Mass for the Dead, also known as the Requiem Mass. It's used at funerals.

In case you were looking for specific dates, the next feast of an Apostle is St. Andrew's Day November 30, followed by St. Thomas December 21.

Next Saturday will be the last time a normal Mass of the Blessed Virgin Mary can be held until after Christmastide, sometime in Mid-January (in the old calendar on the 13th), because they are only allowed Saturdays of Ordinary Time.

"St. Thomas December 21"

Yay old skool!

All these Masses were composed in the old rite, so they would be celebrated in the old rite's calendar.

Magnificat VII is the Magnificat in Mode VII. Mass I is the first of the 18 Masses in the Kyriale.

Do the masses in the Kyriale has specific purposes, say, Missa de angelis, and can only be used for specific dates?

Those are just the names of the Mass chants. Mass of the angels is a setting and isn't different from any other sort of Mass. Mass of the Angels and Mass of Creation both have counterparts in the modern liturgy as well, although not as beautiful as the originals.

Not exactly. While the choice of Mass of Creation, Mass of Light, Mass of the Angels and Saints or some other English Mass is up to the parish, there were rubrics governing the chant Ordinaries. While the suggested days still remain in the new Roman Kyriale, I do not know if they still have the force of law. Since the post-conciliar documents on Music in the Liturgy tend to contradict each other, I don't know if anyone really knows. Of course, do to a lack of trained singers, many parishes did the easiest Mass available, even when the rubrics were in force.

Ahhh, that explains it. I'd never heard of or seen rubrics used, and merely assumed there weren't any. Thanks for enlightening me.

I think so. The New Grove states the following in the entry for Kyriale: The new papal and Franciscan missal of the 13th century grouped the chants in ‘cycles’ for use on different feasts (see Van Dijk and Walker, 1960, p.328); those cycles are the basis of the current Vatican Kyriale.

If you want to look at the Kyriale and see the uses given, Musica Sacra has it on their website: http://www.musicasacra.com/pdf/kyriale.pdf