24 April 2005 - More Jew Than You! (original) (raw)

happy passover, turds!

in going through the motions of the passover seder last night, it came to my attention that the hebrew-english translation of elijah's prayer went something like this:

i always figured that hatishbee and hagiladee were more goofy hebrew hoohah, but no. it actually means tishbee and giladee. right. so just what the gerg is a tishbee and giladee? after some internet inference i found the following:

Tishbe

Traditionally the town of Listib, located 8 miles North of the Jabbok River. Birthplace of Elijah the Prophet.

okay, the guy's from tishbe. easy enough. but what about giladee? the closest thing i could find was this:

Gilgal

Gilgal is a place name in the Bible.

Gilgal, mentioned in connection with the entering of the promised land, is said to have been "on the eastern border of Jericho" (Joshua 4:19).

It was the first encampment after crossing the Jordan river. At Gilgal all male persons were circumcised, because this had not been done in the wilderness.

Although opinions may differ, the Gilgal mentioned in 2 Book of Kings, is commonly believed to be another place. It is said that Elijah and Elisha went down to Bethel from Gilgal, which means the place must have been in a mountainous region.

so being a giladee, it seems that elijah had his wiener whacked at gilgal.

but then, i found this (from a slightly less-reliable source):

Elijah the Prophet was known by many names that were used as descriptions of him. He was also known as Elijah The Tishbite because he belonged to a class of people called "toshavim" ("dwellers" in Hebrew) since he once dwelt in Transjordanic Gilead, but he was not a citizen of that area, and so the descriptive name "Tishbi" or "Tishbite" ("settler" or "dweller" in Hebrew) was applied to him and appended to his name. Because Elijah dwelt or lived in Transjordanic Gilead, a geographically-oriented descriptive name was applied and appended to his name and as a result, he was also known as Elijah the Gileadite.

anyone have any insight into this situation?