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What happens when you are planning a homebirth with a midwife, and the pregnancy goes past 42 weeks?
Is there some legal reason that midwives aren't supposed to attend a homebirth after that point, or is it their choice?
I guess that would mean that it would go from a midwife assisted birth to an unassisted birth.
Or do the midwives come anyway? Who checks up on this shit anyway?

Sorry for the weird rambling questions. I just spoke this morning to a girl who I work with, who has been planning a homebirth from the start of the pregnancy, but is at 42 weeks 4 days and headed to the hospital.
When I asked why, she said that her midwife legally wasn't allowed to attend her homebirth anymore, so she had to deliver at the hospital.

Wut?

(I haven't yet heard how the birth went.)

I know someone who had a baby at the end of December. I asked her the other day how breastfeeding was going and she told me she quit.

Of course, I had to ask why, and she said it was because she was smoking 6-10 cigarettes a day and didn't want to stop. She said it wasn't fair to her baby to breastfeed if she was smoking, so she just gave up and started giving him formula.

Now, obviously the best thing to do would have been to quit entirely, but what would be best if she was unwilling? I would think that breastfeeding, even if you are smoking, would still be more beneficial to the baby than formula.
Or, is that wrong, and formula is better than smoking mom's milk?

Please ladies, help me out here.

27 February 2008 @ 10:34 am

Current Mood: "trendy"

22 February 2008 @ 10:19 am

Baby Carriers - BEWARE
Reply to: comm-582878435@craigslist.org
Date: 2008-02-22, 9:01AM PST

For those moms who wear their babies in front facing carriers (facing either out or in), if you trip or fall while walking forward, you will fall on top of your baby. If the baby is facing out, his face will smack directly into concrete from a height of about 5 feet. If he's facing in, the back of his head will smack directly into concrete from a height of about 5 feet, and the back of the head is easier to injure according to my doctor. This happened to me - I am always very careful when wearing my baby but I slipped in some water on a hard tile floor and down we went. Even when I put my arms out to soften the blow my baby's head still hit the floor with a loud conk, and of course he cried for a long time. If I wouldn't have put my arms out he would've had a fractured skull.

I know many moms wear these baby carriers for convenience to themselves so they can go about their day and do their work while taking care of baby - just realize how dangerous they are. Think through what you would do if you fall while wearing your baby. You cannot twist your body around at all so that your body falls on the floor first. That's not possible because the extra weight in front will pull you forward on top of your baby, especially if you have the momentum of walking forward. If you are just carrying your baby, it's not likely that it's face will smack directly into the concrete. Just don't become blase when using these carriers. They really are hazardous.

And please, all the attachment parenting nazis out there please don't email me. I don't want to read your aggressive pushy opinion. This is a public service announcement for those who care about their babies. If you want to push an attachment parenting agenda at any cost, take it elsewhere, thanks. I've heard it all before and it's tiring.

re: babycarriers beware (all)
Reply to: comm-582971561@craigslist.org
Date: 2008-02-22, 10:18AM PST

i have fallen wearing my baby twice - once out of pure clumsiness and once on slippery wet tile while i was out walking. both times i twisted and fell so they were safe. and i have big babies.

so all in all in 5 years of babycarrying i have had 0 injuries to me and the babies.

signed
the nazi babywearing agenda

eta:
both mine and the orginal post can be found here in "childcare" of all places
http://losangeles.craigslist.org/kid/

etaa:
Attachment Parenting Nazis
Reply to: comm-583279020@craigslist.org
Date: 2008-02-22, 2:25PM PST

Apparently they don't know how to read either.
They want to shove their own philosophy down your throat - the height of arrogance, dictatorship, insult and lunacy.
Steer clear of these fucks. They are nasty, and don't care if they are nasty.
Nothing wrong with babywearing, co-sleeping et al, but the nazis who push it down every parent's throat are absoultely disgusting. Get the fuck out of my face, and stay away, thanks. Do whatever the fuck you want with your own rugrat, but keep your lame ass ideas away from me and mine. You are like a virus, a disease trying to spread itself by any means possible. You will be treated as such.
These sad sad folks must have really low self-esteem to constantly take the arrogant position that what THEY do is best. The height of fucking ego, if you ask me. So so far from an enlightened viewpoint. The messengers are destroying th message. How stupid of them is that?? LOL

Next time, learn to read. When people tell you your nazi agenda is not wanted, honor it and go post somewhere else, on some stupid mom forum where you can belittle others all you want to make yourself feel Big and Important. There are plenty of stupid moms on the forums you can dominate, go on now. Go stir up drama, debate, and arguments on the forums where your kind thrive, adding post after post of inane bullshit to push your agenda. Never mind that your kids are probably being unattended while you do so, LOL.

Go fuck yourself, attachment parenting nazi.

(and a gentle reminder to those who have reading comprehension skills: I am not against attachment parenting per se - I cosleep, breastfeed, babywear etc - it's the attitude, demeanor, tactics, and downright offensive arrogant bullying behavior of the women who push it down everyone else's throat that I cannot stand. And apparently there are quite a few other moms just like me, from the sheer volume of email I've received saying Amen sister! People have had enough of domineering parenting "advice". Lord I cannot stand folks who feel they have to change you into being JUST LIKE THEM or they aren't happy, haven't fulfilled their mission/crusade. Like I said, you are a disease.)

12 February 2008 @ 06:10 pm

I'm helping to throw my sister a baby shower. I'm looking for ideas regarding more "natural" decorating and favor ideas. Looking online at some of the things available, they're all china-made (which I feel comes with a pretty high likelihood of poorly treated workers), unhealthy (with regards to foods like candies), and wasteful- the kind of thing you use once and then toss.

I'm thinking that I can likely use some of the food for decorating, like fruits and veggies in pretty presentations and center pieces, but that can only go so far and I still need favor ideas and I don't want to do donations in place of favors because most of the people there probably won't appreciate that based on what I know about them.

So, any ideas? I just don't want to be wasteful and unethical in what goes into this shower.

Thanks!

xposted to naturalliving

04 February 2008 @ 06:42 pm

One of the suggestions that was made for this community is a comprehensive list of links.

There are two purposes of this list. The first would be to essentially provide a one-stop-shop for members to be able to find evidence that supports their position in an argument taking place in another community. Are you getting into it with some ignoramus who thinks that epidurals are totally risk free in pregnant? Good. No need to break out Google and attempt to find the strongest counter-argument possible in a nanosecond. We'll have it. Hell, we'll have it bookmarked, tagged and added to memory. All you would have to do in the heat of the debate is cut it and paste it. Cool, eh?

The second purpose would be to provide a way in which members can share information pertaining amongst ourselves. This information can include nearly anything. From diaper reviews, documentary information, WAHM retail information, advocacy, etc. This will also be categorized so that it's easy to find. In fact, many of these linke, such as Mothering.com magazine, KellyMom.com and AskDrSears.com will be located right on the community user info. We'll keep adding indefinitely so that there's always information to share. For the record, a the time this post was made, only Mothering.com is mentioned on our info. THERE IS NOTHING THAT IS A NO-BRAINER!

If you would like to contribute to the first objective of this list- make a post using the following format:

TOPIC: ie: Dangers of Epidurals
SOURCE: The web address, or citation
ABSTRACT: The jist of what is being said, preferably in quote form
TAG: Is there an appropriate community tag for this? If not, suggest one
DATE: If applicable, the date this information came out
RELIABILITY OF SOURCE: Is this scholarly or not? Does it contain citations? Is it evidence-based or opinion based? Objective or non?

The mods will be sure to catalogue it for you. In the meantime, other community members can explore the post, comment and discuss the information.

Since this community is all-inclusive, the topics are truly fair-game. If you think it matters, it does.

If you would like to contribute to the second objective of this list from a RETAIL perspective- comment to this post using the following format:

TOPIC: ie: Betty Sue's Gently Loved Diaper Store
SOURCE: The web address
INFORMATION: We're are a retail store specializing in used diapers and are having a sale on prefolds from 4/2-4/9
FREQUENCY: Is this a one-time post for an opening sale? Or are you just looking for general bi-weekly exposure?
BANNER: Do you have a banner you would like posted on the user info?

After your comment, the mods will review it and decide if the link belongs on the user info, or if we should get a separate tradition started. I know in some communities, clothdiapering, for example, there are regular ISO posts and opportunities for WAHMs to spam around a bit for publicity. I would like to encourage this to an extent, but I wouldn't want it to bombard the community. Therefore, if we find that there's a big enough interest in it- we might make a bi-weekly post highlighting retail specials and advertising.

In the meantime, WAHMs are more than welcome to provide us with banners and links to their online stores and we'll put them on the user info.

If you would like to promote a socio-political or environmental cause please make a post using the following format:

TOPIC: ie: Shampoo Safety
SOURCE: The web address
INFORMATION: This website analyzes the ingredients found in commercial hair products and their potential health implications
TAG: Does the community have a tag that pertains to this? If not, suggest one.
INFO: Is this an ongoing issue? Do you think we should link to it on the community info?

By putting this in a separate post, you gain exposure and open up the lines of discussion.

*** I have linked to this post on the info page and have also added it to memories. Whenever you find something you would like added, post it. If you have a ton of websites bookmarked and you would like someone else to do the forms for you, just post the links here and hopefully we'll eventually get to them. PLEASE MAKE SURE TO INCLUDE A "SUBJECT" FOR ANY REPLY SO THAT WE GENERALLY KNOW WHAT WE ARE DEALING WITH THOUGH!

This system is really one of the ideas that is going to contribute to making this community really active and successful. Remember that. If you have anything to contribute, do it. I'm sure everyone has something- even if it's just an appreciation post for how wonderfully tasty Earth Balance organic buttery spread is go for it.

y/y?

Current Mood: curious

04 February 2008 @ 05:04 pm

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