Article considered as a whole translation unit, ignoring paragraphs and failing translation (original) (raw)

CX2: Article considered as a whole translation unit, ignoring paragraphs and failing translation

When translating Trifles (play) from English to Russian, Content translation is not able to divide it into translation units based on paragraphs, as reported in this comment. Hovering the the first paragraph to add it to the translation shows the whole document highlighted:

When clicking on the paragraph to add it, the "Automatic translation failed!" message is shown, as a fallback the whole source article is copied over to the translation.

Inspecting the source article, the only apparent particularity is the presence of About and Italic title templates:

{{About|the play|the dessert|Trifle}}
{{Italic title}}
'''''Trifles''''' is a [[one-act play]]...

Further investigation may be needed to confirm the cause.

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Pginer-WMF raised the priority of this task from Medium to High.Mar 1 2019, 2:03 PM

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@santhosh identified that template Italic title from English Wikipedia is causing section wrapping to break. The proposed solution is to add "Italic title" to the list of templates removed from article content. However, that means that template name is used to find the template in wikitext, which means it does not work for many other templates on other wikis.

The config file lists which templates to remove from the content. For example, templates "Wikipedia articles (for|with|needing|containing)" are removed, "Featured article" template is removed, "Short description" template is removed, etc. We clearly see how this is English Wikipedia-centric and doesn't work for other wikis.

The list does include a line Esborrany # Stub category in es.wikipedia , which seems intended for Spanish Wikipedia, but that template seems non-existent.

On gerrit, I wrote:

We should strive to find more maintainable and scalable solution or decide to solve the problems templates like this one create.

and @santhosh replied to these issues being pointed out with:

Yeah, T197859 and global templates...
I don't have any quick solutions for this. Also I don't know if there is an automatic way to determine a template is relevant for translation or not.
Agree that the current way is far from optimal. But I think for this ticket, this is the best I can do as quick solution.

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The list does include a line Esborrany # Stub category in es.wikipedia , which seems intended for Spanish Wikipedia, but that template seems non-existent.

"esborrany" is the Catalan word for "draft". So I guess the category is from Catalan Wikipedia. Maybe the issue was caused by such category leaking into Spanish causing the confusion in the annotation.

On gerrit, I wrote:

We should strive to find more maintainable and scalable solution or decide to solve the problems templates like this one create.

and @santhosh replied to these issues being pointed out with:

Yeah, T197859 and global templates...
I don't have any quick solutions for this. Also I don't know if there is an automatic way to determine a template is relevant for translation or not.
Agree that the current way is far from optimal. But I think for this ticket, this is the best I can do as quick solution.

Even if a better solution is not feasible for the short time, it would be good to document what exactly made the Italic title template special. Maybe it is possible to detect the effects of such template and correct them. that could compensate the lack of a mechanism to skip equivalent templates across languages.

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Checked "Trifles (play)", "...explosante-fixe..." and some other articles with {{Italic title}}. Also I checked for DISPLAYTITLE - all such articles seem to be divided into sections without any problems.

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