Susquehanna Railway Roster and Survivors. (original) (raw)

Compiling an "all-time" roster for most railroads, especially large railroads that began in the 19th century, is very difficult. For many railroads, such as the New York Central, its nearly impossible to accurately list EVERY locomotive ever owned by the company. But the NYSW is probably just small enough that an accurate all-time roster shouldnt be too difficult to determine. hopefully! The steam era of the NYSW is complicated and confusing, mainly due to the Erie railroad control between the years 1898 and 1940. But if we divide up the NYSW steam era into it's three clear divisions, it might be managable.. Steam era #1 - Beginning of the NYSW to Erie control - 1881 to 1898. Steam era #2 - The Erie Years - 1898 - 1940. Steam era #3 - Independance to "end of steam" - 1940 - 1947. The following steam roster data is compiled from four different books: The New York Susquehanna & Western Railroad. - by Robert E. Mohowski Erie Power - by Al Stauffer Susquehanna - by John Krause and Ed Crist. The History of the New York Susquehanna & Western Railroad - by Walter Arndt Lucas, published by the Railroadians of America in 1939 and reprinted and updated in 1980. there are some roster discrepncies between the books! when books disagree, I am going with the newest book (Mohowski) assuming the latest data is the correct data, but this may or may not be a correct assumption! ;) There are also two other NYSW books which I do not yet have in my collection: Susquehanna � from Shortlines to Stackpacks - by Ken Karlewicz and Scott Hartley New York Susquehanna & Western, In Color. - Morning Sun Books. And as always, I recieve lots of help on these lists from the great railfans and historians at www.railroad.net, www.railfan.net and www.rypn.org. (see links below) thanks!

Susquehanna Steam Locomotives:

Steam Era #1 - 1881-1898 "Prior to Erie Control, Susquehanna operated with 87 Locomotives" - Mohowski nearly all of these 87 locomotives were of the 4-4-0 and 2-6-0 type. Even though the Susquehanna was not fully an Erie subsiderary until 1898, NYSW locomotives were ordered in "sub sets" of Erie locomotive orders before then, With the same specifications as the Erie engines, but lettered "Susquehanna" on the tender, and given an independent NYSW 2-digit number series. 4-4-0 Type - class? Number in class? Wheel arr road number class builder/date retired/scrapped notes photo 4-4-0 12 ? 2-6-0 Type Class F25 - 22 locomotives, all 22 in the class built for NYSW - Rogers 1881-1889, numbers 18-42, but not inclusive, there were gaps in the number series. Class F26 - 7 locos built for Erie, Numbers 45-51,Rogers, 1892 & 1893, 4 of the 7 assigned to NYSW.(which four were NYSW is currently unknown) Class F27 - 14 locos built for the Erie, Numbers 52-65, Rogers 1894-1897, 12 of 14 assigned to NYSW.(which 12 were NYSW is currently unknown) all locos in this class were Camelbacks Class F28 - Rogers 1894-1895. Number of NYSW locos in this class currently unknown. - all data from Stauffer 39 of the 87 pre-Erie NYSW locos can be confirmed as 4-6-0's..based on data so far. Wheel arr road number class builder/date retired/scrapped notes photo 2-6-0 49 F27 Rogers 1894-1897 camelback 2-6-0 57 F27 Rogers 1894-1897 camelback 2-6-0 63 2-6-0 65 2-6-0 77 Steam Era #2 -The Erie Years - 1898 - 1940 The Erie fully controlled the NYSW during these years, but the NYSW had its own locomotives lettered "Susquehanna" and NYSW locos also had an independant number series from the Erie, NYSW locos generally had 2-digit road numbers, (except for the Russians) while Erie locos had 4-digit numbers. This is going to be the most difficult era to straighten out when it comes to what locos were actually assigned to the NYSW..it�s quite nebulous because of the Erie control. For the purposes of this webpage, I am going to include any locomotive that was ever lettered "Susquehanna" on the tender, regardless of if it was leased or owned. The following is the best I can do so far for a complete NYSW roster for the years 1898-1940, it includes the 1905 Susquehanna Roster from the 1939 Walter Arndt Lucas book. Which shows a mix of original NYSW locos, plus some new ones from the Erie. Class names are Erie classes, not the original NYSW classes. In addition to the 1905 roster, other locos that were known to be on the roster before 1940 are below. A total of xx locos are on this 1898-1940 roster, however not all operated at the same time! "The greatest number of locomotives owned at any one time by the NYS&W was 101. This number was reached in 1911 and continued until 1916, finally diminishing to the insignificant two owned in 1938." -Lucas, 1939. "In 1920, 92 locomotives were in use on The Susquehanna" - Mohowski Wheel arr road number class builder/date retired/scrapped notes photo 4-6-0 25 G-odd Rogers, 1893 named "Phillip T. Nixon" 4-6-0 26 4-6-0 27 4-6-0 29 4-6-0 30 orig Erie 899, retired 1938 4-6-0 31 4-6-0 32 4-6-0 33 4-6-0 34 Baldwin, 1891 orig Erie 289/975/1893, retired 1938 4-6-0 35 scrapped 1929 4-6-0 36 4-6-0 37 4-6-0 38 2-10-0 ???? J2 16 of the 75 Erie Russians assigned to NYSW before 1940 (see below) Steam Era #3 -Independence to "end of steam" - 1940-1947 The NYSW gained it's independence from the Erie in 1940. Between 1940 and 1947, NYSW leased/owned a total of 31 Steam Locomotives in four wheel arrangements: Five 0-6-0 Eight 4-6-0 Two 4-6-2 (but we have photos of FOUR!..perhaps renumburing? Or were there were actually four? Or..two were "Erie Years" pre-1940, and twp were Post-Erie) Sixteen 2-10-0 (were they the SAME sixteen from pre-1940? Unknown..) This era is more straight-forward and well documented, we should be able to figure it out with accuracy. Wheel arr road number class builder/date retired/scrapped notes photo 0-6-0 69 B-5 0-6-0 75 B-5 0-6-0 101 B-6 Erie Meadville-1912 0-6-0 104 B-6 Erie Meadville-1912 0-6-0 107 B-6 Erie Meadville-1912 4-6-0 953 G-15b Baldwin 1903/1904 Purchased from Erie - 12-1-1944 4-6-0 960 G-15b Baldwin 1903/1904 . leased, never purchased 4-6-0 961 G-15b Baldwin 1903/1904 leased, never purchased 4-6-0 963 G-15a Baldwin 1903/1904 Purchased from Erie - 12-1-1944 4-6-0 966 G-15a Baldwin 1903/1904 leased, never purchased 4-6-0 969 G-15a Baldwin 1903/1904 Purchased from Erie - 12-1-1944 4-6-0 970 G-15a Baldwin 1903/1904 leased, never purchased 4-6-0 972 G-15b Baldwin 1903/1904 leased, never purchased 4-6-2 2451 4-6-2 2514 K1 Purchased from Erie - 9-30-1943 4-6-2 2518 4-6-2 2539 K1 Purchased from Erie - 9-30-1943 2-10-0 2433 J-2 1917 Purchased from Erie - 2-4-1943 2-10-0 2435 J-2 1917 Purchased from Erie - 12-1-1944 2-10-0 2443 J-2 1917 Purchased from Erie - 2-4-1943 2-10-0 2445 J-2 1917 Purchased from Erie - 12-1-1944 2-10-0 2451 J-2 1917 Purchased from Erie - 2-4-1943 2-10-0 2452 J-2 1917 leased, never purchased 2-10-0 2454 J-2 1917 leased, never purchased 2-10-0 2461 J-2 1917 Purchased from Erie - 2-4-1943 2-10-0 2472 J-2 1917 leased, never purchased 2-10-0 2475 J-2 1917 Purchased from Erie - 2-4-1943 2-10-0 2476 J-2 1917 Purchased from Erie - 2-4-1943 2-10-0 2481 J-2 1917 leased, never purchased 2-10-0 2484 J-2 1917 leased, never purchased 2-10-0 2490 J-2 1917 Purchased from Erie - 12-1-1944 2-10-0 2492 J-2 1917 Purchased from Erie - 2-4-1943 2-10-0 2495 J-2 1917 see *note3 Purchased from Erie - 2-4-1943

Numbers inREDindicate that specific locomotive is documented, with a photograph, as having been lettered for the Susquehanna. Sadly, ALL steam locomotives listed above have been scrapped. The current Susquehanna 2-8-2 #142 was built in 1989 in China.

The Susquehanna Motor Cars:

| Photo | Road No. | Model | Status | Heritage | Location | Notes | | | | ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- | --------------- | --------------- | --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- | ------------------------------------------------------------------ | ------------------------------------------------------- | -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- | | | | | 100 | Inspection car | scrapped | built by Buda, new in 1940 for NYSW. sold early 60's to Liberia. | | 4-wheel inspection car, not a revenue vehicle. | | | | | | 1001 | ACF MotoRailer | scrapped | Built new for NYSW - 1940 | | | | | | | | 1002 | ACF MotoRailer | scrapped | Built new for NYSW - 1940 | | | | | | | 1003 | ACF MotoRailer | scrapped | Originally Illinois Central 131, built 1940, bought by NYSW in 1943 | | | | | | | | 1004 | ACF MotoRailer | scrapped | Originally Illinois Central 130, built 1940, bought by NYSW in 1943 | | | | | | | | 1005 | ACF MotoRailer | scrapped | Originally Illinois Central 140, built 1941, bought by NYSW in 1947 | | | | | | | | 1006 | ACF MotoRailer | scrapped | Originally Illinois Central 141, built 1941, bought by NYSW in 1947 | | MotoRailers operated 1940-1949 | | | | | | 3001 | Brill model 250 | ??? | Original B&M 171, built 1926, bought by NYSW in 1940 | | 3001 and 3002 were sold to Cuba in 1949..dispo unknown. | | | | | 3002 | Brill model 250 | ??? | original Cumberland & Pennsylvania , bought by NYSW in 1942 | | 3001 and 3002 were sold to Cuba in 1949..dispo unknown. | | | | | | 5011 | EMD | ??? | built 1930 - probably *not* painted and lettered for NYSW..(lettered Erie) | | | | | | | | 5012 | EMD | preserved | built 1930 - painted and lettered for NYSW | Ohio | future uncertain - see this link. | | | | | M1 | Budd RDC | preserved | ex-NJTR 5196 - 558 - NJDOT 558 - CNJ 558 - nee NYS&W M1 (blt 1950) | Butler, NJ. | owned by URHS, leased to NYSWTHS. | | | | | M2 | Budd RDC | preserved | ex-NJTR 5197 - 559 - NJDOT 559 - CNJ 559 - nee NYS&W M2 (blt 1950) | Butler, NJ | owned by the NYSWTHS. | | | | | | M3 | Budd RDC | operating | Ex-Kasten Railcar, N.J. Dept. of Transportation 5109, CNJ 560, nee-NYS&W M-3 (blt 1950) | | At the Cuyahoga Valley Scenic Railroad | | | | | M4 | Budd RDC | preserved | ex-NJTR 5199 - 560 - NJDOT 560 - CNJ 560 - nee NYS&W M4 (blt 1950) | Butler, NJ | Privately owned, kept with NYSWTHS collection. | | | | | | M5 | Budd RDC | Operating | ex-MNCR 18 - AMTK 18 - PC 68 - nee NH 23 (blt 1952) | Syracuse | | | | | | M6 | Budd RDC | ??? | ex-MNCR 11 - AMTK 11 - PC 37 - nee NH 37 (blt 1953) | | | | | | | | M7 | Budd RDC | Operating | ex-MNCR 43 - PC 43 - nee NH 43 (blt 1953) | Syracuse | | | | | | | M8 | Budd RDC | Operating | ex-MNCR 65 - PC 65 - nee NYC M465 (blt 1953) | Syracuse | | | | |

Susquehanna Diesel Locomotives:
and surviving locomotives, and all-time diesel roster.

Photo Road No. Model Year Built Status Heritage Location Current Paint Notes
101 Alco RS3 1952 scrapped CVSR - RLW 4088 - NYSW 101 - DO 101 - CNY 101 - nee D&H 4088 Scrapped at the Cuyahoga Valley Scenic Railroad, 1996
104 Alco RS3 1952 scrapped CVSR- RLW - NYSW 104 - Adirondack 29 - R&S 29 - nee D&H 4117 Scrapped at the Cuyahoga Valley Scenic Railroad, 1996
116 EMD NW2 1948 operating Ex-CR 9264 - PC 8684 - NYC 9501 -nee NYOW 116 Syracuse NYO&W Restored in NYO&W paint
120 EMD SW9 1953 operating Ex-C&O 5091 Dansville, NY yellowjacket sold to AMPI, September 2006, is now the AMPI shop switcher.
142 2-8-2 steam. 1989 operating Built by TangShan, China, in 1989.Ex - Connecticut Valley RR 1547 Phillipsburg, NJ owned by the NYSWTHS
150 20T Whitcomb 1942 preserved ex NYSW 150 (bought 1946), US Army 7720 - nee-QMC 2084 Whippany, NJ NYSW red/grey Preserved at Whippany Railroad Museum
151 20T Whitcomb 1942 ??? ex NYSW 151 (bought 1946), US Army 7723 - nee-QMC 2092 both sold by NYSW in 1960.
200 GE 45ton 1958 operating bought 1958. - now Quebec Iron & Titanium #24 see *note 4 for whitcomb and GE 45tonner info.
202 Alco S2 1941 scrapped nee NYSW 202 First NYSW diesels- Alco S2 pair 202 and 204 - 1941
203 Alco S2 1942 scrapped nee NYSW 203
204 Alco S2 1941 scrapped nee NYSW 204
205 Alco S2 1942 scrapped nee NYSW 205
206 Alco S2 1942 Preserved nee NYSW 206 URHS of NJ NYSW red/grey only remaining S2 on the property in 1979.
208 Alco S2 1942 scrapped nee NYSW 208
230 Alco RS1 1944 scrapped nee NYSW 230
231:1 Alco RS1 1942 preserved US Army 8000 - nee NYSW 231:1 (see *note 2) Dallas, TX TXI white see *note2
233:1 Alco RS1 1942 scrapped Alaska RSD1 1085 - Alaska 1057 - US Army 8001 - nee NYSW 233:1 - scrapped 1965-67 see *note2
231:2 Alco RS1 1943 scrapped nee NYSW 231:2 see *note2
233:2 Alco RS1 1943 scrapped G&W - nee NYSW 233:2 sold to Genesee & Wyoming, used for parts.
232 Alco RS1 1947 scrapped nee NYSW 232 The arrival of these four units in 1947 ended steam operations.
234 Alco RS1 1947 scrapped nee NYSW 234
236 Alco RS1 1947 scrapped nee NYSW 236
238 Alco RS1 1947 scrapped nee NYSW 238 Was a yellowjacket in 1985.
240 Alco RS1 4-1945 OOS current Tioga Central 240 - nee NYSW 240 Wellsboro, PA NYSW Was a yellowjacket - sold 1984..
242 Alco RS1 1945 scrapped nee NYSW 242
244 Alco RS1 1945 scrapped nee NYSW 244
246 Alco RS1 1947 preserved IMC-Agrico 207 - Tennessee RR #6 - nee NYSW 246 Fort Meade, FL IMC scheme sold to Tennessee RR as their #6 (7/63)
248 Alco RS1 1947 scrapped nee NYSW 248
250 Alco RS1 1947 scrapped Vermont Ry - nee NYSW 250 sold to Vermont Ry as their 250 (11/65) then traded to EMD (9/66)
252 Alco RS1 1947 scrapped nee NYSW 252 scrapped 1988. Bicentennial unit, was also a yellowjacket.
254 Alco RS1 scrapped nee NYSW 254
256:1 Alco RS1 scrapped nee NYSW 256:1 scrapped 1979
1778 EMD SD45 scrapped was Norfolk & Western 1778, bought as a NYSW parts unit never operated with NYSW, parted out and scrapped.
1800 EMD GP18 1962 operating bought new by NYSW - 8/1962 NYSW Yellowjacket rebuilt mid-2004
1802 EMD GP18 1962 operating bought new by NYSW - 8/1962 NYSW Yellowjacket
1804 EMD GP18 1962 OOS - Bing bought new by NYSW - 8/1962 Binghamton Yellowjacket rebuilt 8 - 2002
The three GP18's are the first Yellowjackets! (before them, the Alco S2's and RS1's were in the Maroon and grey/silver scheme)
2000 Alco C420 1966 scrapped Maryland and Delaware #50 - Nee L&N 1312. (low hood) was a yellowjacket scrapped Little Ferry late 80's
2010 Alco C420 1964 Operating current BS 2010 - (NYSW 2002, re# 260, re# 2010) - nee LIRR 221 (high hood) Gowanda, NY BSOR green. Operating as Buffalo Southern 2010
2012 EMD GP38 1967 OOS - Bing Ex-B&O 3800 Binghamton Yellowjacket
2062 EMD GP20 1961 OOS - Bing Ex-TPW 2062 - TPW 2010 - ATSF 3040 - ATSF 3140 -nee ATSF 1140 Binghamton Yellowjacket
2064 EMD GP20 1961 OOS - Bing Ex-TPW 2064 - TPW 2013 - ATSF 3068 - ATSF 3168 -nee ATSF 1168 Binghamton Yellowjacket
2066 EMD GP20 1961 OOS - Bing Ex-TPW 2066 - TPW 2008 - ATSF 3051 - ATSF 3151 -nee ATSF 1151 NYSW Yellowjacket
2300 GE B23-7 1978 OOS - Utica Ex-P&W 2214 - CSX 3126 - SBD 5127 - Nee L&N 5127 Utica P&W scheme
2302 GE U23B 5/1977 operating Ex-BDLX 2208 - P&W 2208 - nee CR 2794 NYSW P&W scheme
2304 GE U23B 5/1977 operating Ex-P&W 2207 - nee CR 2796 NYSW P&W scheme
2400 EMD E9 1954 OOS Ex-BN 9921 nee CBQ 9991 McDonald, Oh NYSW Maroon Sold to Larrys Truck & Electric in 2006
2402 EMD E9 1955 OOS Ex-BN 9915 nee CBQ 9985 McDonald, Oh NYSW Maroon Sold to Larrys Truck & Electric in 2006
3000 Alco C430 1967 operating Currently WNYP 430 - NYSW 3000 - Conrail 2050 - PC 2050 - nee NYC 2050 Falconer, NY LAL black/yellow Currently with Livonia, Avon & Lakeville. (WNYP)
3002:1 Alco C430 1967 scrapped NYSW 3002 - Conrail 2052 - PC 2052 - nee NYC 2052 wrecked 2/3/87, scrapped at Utica 1995.
3004 Alco C430 1967 scrapped NYSW 3004 - Conrail 2051 - PC 2051 - nee NYC 2051 wrecked 2/3/87, scrapped 2/1989
3006 Alco C430 1967 operating Currently WNYP 433 - NYSW 3006 - Conrail 2056 - PC 2056 - nee NYC 2056 Lakeville, NY yellowjacket Currently with Livonia, Avon & Lakeville. (WNYP)
3008 Alco C430 1967 scrapped NYSW 3008 - Conrail 2055 - PC 2055 - nee NYC 2055 c-shaft failure 1986, scrapped at NIMX (Little Ferry NY) Jun-1986.
3010 EMD SD40T-2 1978 operating (was briefly NYSW 3002:2) Ex-UP 8590 - SP 5397 nee DRGW 5397 NYSW Yellowjacket Rebuilt - AMP, Dansville NY -10-2006 -was repainted
3012 EMD SD40T-2 1980 operating Ex-SP 8242 NYSW Yellowjacket
3014 EMD SD40T-2 1978 operating Ex-SP 8321 NYSW Yellowjacket Rebuilt - AMP, Dansville NY -3-2007 -was repainted
3016 EMD SD40T-2 1979 operating Ex-SP 8542 NYSW Yellowjacket Rebuilt - AMP, Dansville NY -3-2007 not repainted
3018 EMD SD40-2 1978 operating Ex-BDLX 3267 - NS 3267 - nee Southern 3267 (was a high hood) NYSW Yellowjacket leased '02-'03 - bought 2004, rebuilt dansville 2006, nose chopped.
3020 EMD SD40 1966 operating Ex-BDLX 1603 - NS 1603 - N&W 1603 (high hood) NYSW NS Black high hood - leased 2002/2003 - bought 2004
3022 EMD SD40 1966 operating Ex-BDLX 1605 - NS 1605 - N&W 1605 (was a high-hood) NYSW Yellowjacket rblt Dansville 2006, nose chopped. leased 2002/2003 bought 2004
3040 EMD GP40 1970 operating Ex-NYSW 256:2 - CRL 256 - CSXT 6652 - SBD 6652 - nee AWP 732 NYSW
3042 EMD GP40 1966 OOS - Utica Ex-BDLX 1355-NS 1355 - nee N&W 1355 Utica NS Black was originally a high-hood, got the low nose from NYSW 3612
6360 EMD SD45 1971 scrapped nee BN 6475 - would have been, but never operated as NYSW 3610 BN green NYSW parts unit, parted out and scrapped in Utica - 1992
3612 EMD SD45 1971 scrapped Ex-NYSW 6362 - nee BN 6480 scrapped in Utica.- 2004
3614 EMD SD45 1971 OOS - Dansville Ex-NYSW 6364 - nee BN 6480. Dansville, NY yellowjacket Went to Dansville for work, was unfixable. Off the roster 10/2007
6366 EMD SD45 1971 stored Ex-NYSW 6366 - nee BN 6489 - would have been, but never operated as NYSW 3616. Montana MRL blue Currently Montana Rail Link 362
3618 EMD SD45 1971 operating Ex-NYSW 3618 - NYSW 6500 - nee BN 6500 NYSW yellowjacket Rebuilt - AMPI, Dansville NY -9-2006 - was not repainted
3620 EMD SD45 1971 stored Ex-NYSW 3620 - NYSW 6503 - nee BN 6503 Montana yellowjacket Currently Montana Rail Link 365 - leased to KCS in 2006
3622 EMD SD45 1971 stored Ex-NYSW 3622 - NYSW 6509 - nee BN 6509 Montana MRL blue Currently Montana Rail Link 364 - leased to BNSF in 2006
3624 EMD SD45 1971 stored Ex-NYSW 3624 - NYSW 6513 - nee BN 6513 Montana Currently Montana Rail Link 360
3626 EMD SD45 1971 stored Ex-NYSW 3626 - NYSW 6361 - nee BN 6514 Montana yellowjacket Currently Montana Rail Link 359 - leased to BNSF in 2006
6515 EMD SD45 1971 scrapped Ex-NYSW 6515 - nee BN 6515 - would have been, but never operated as NYSW 3628 Montana MRL blue Was MRL 366, scrapped 11/2006 in Livingston, MO.
3630 EMD SD45 1971 operating Ex-NYSW 3630 - NYSW 6521 - nee BN 6521 Iowa yellowjacket Was MRL 363, currently ICE 363
3632 EMD SD45 1971 stored Ex-NYSW 3632 - NYSW 6525 - nee BN 6525 Montana was MRL blue Currently Montana Rail Link 361 - leased to BNSF in 2006
3634 EMD SD45 1971 operating Ex-NYSW 6542 - nee BN 6542 NYSW yellowjacket Rebuilt Dansville '06-early '07, back in service Jan 07, repainted.
3636 EMD F45 1971 operating Ex-NYSW 6640 - nee BN 6640 NYSW yellowjacket
3638 EMD F45 1971 stored Ex-NYSW 3638 - NYSW 6370 - nee BN 6644 Montana MRL blue currently Montana Rail Link 390 - leased to BNSF in 2006
3660 Alco C636 1968 OOS ex RRPX 78, ex Cartier 78, exx-MK 5402, nee Alco 636-2 (Alco C636 demonstrator!) Cohocton, NY
3662 Alco C636 1968 OOS ex SIXX 77-Cartier 77- MK 5403, nee Alco 636-3 (Alco C636 demonstrator!) Cohocton, NY
3664 MLW M636 1970 OOS ex SIXX 41, ex Cartier 41, nee CN 2300 Cohocton, NY
3666 MLW M636 1970 Operating WNYP 636, ex NYSW 6366, ex SIXX 45, exx Cartier 45, nee CN 2304 Olean, NY
3668 MLW M636 1970 OOS ex SIXX 47, ex Cartier 47, nee CN 2312 Cohocton, NY
3670 MLW M636 1970 OOS ex NYSW 6370, ex SIXX 43, exx Cartier 43, nee CN 2302 Cohocton, NY
3672 MLW M636 1973 OOS ex SIXX 75, nee Cartier 75 Cohocton, NY
3674 MLW M636 1975 OOS ex RRPX 85, nee Cartier 85 Cohocton, NY
4002 GE B40-8 1988 operating Currently P&W 4004 - sold 2004 New England P&W scheme
4004 GE B40-8 1988 operating Currently P&W 4001 - sold 2004 New England P&W scheme
4006 GE B40-8 1988 operating Currently P&W 4003 - sold September 2005 New England P&W scheme Was the last B40-8 on NYSW-
4008 GE B40-8 1988 operating Currently P&W 4002 - sold February 2005 New England P&W scheme
4010 GE B40-8 1989 operating Currently CSX 5930 CSX system CSX bc See *Note 1
4012 GE B40-8 1989 operating Currently CSX 5931 CSX system CSX bc
4014 GE B40-8 1989 operating Currently CSX 5932 CSX system CSX bc
4016 GE B40-8 1989 operating Currently CSX 5933 CSX system CSX bc
4018 GE B40-8 1989 operating Currently CSX 5944 CSX system CSX bc
4020 GE B40-8 1989 operating Currently CSX 5934 CSX system CSX bc
4022 GE B40-8 1989 operating Currently CSX 5935 CSX system CSX bc
4024 GE B40-8 1989 operating Currently CSX 5945 CSX system CSX yn3
4026 GE B40-8 1989 operating Currently CSX 5938 CSX system CSX bc
4028 GE B40-8 1989 operating Currently CSX 5939 CSX system CSX bc
4030 GE B40-8 1989 operating Currently CSX 5940 CSX system CSX bc
4032 GE B40-8 1989 operating Currently CSX 5941 CSX system CSX bc
4034 GE B40-8 1989 operating Currently CSX 5946 CSX system CSX bc
4036 GE B40-8 1989 operating Currently CSX 5943 CSX system CSX bc
4038 GE B40-8 1989 operating Currently CSX 5942 CSX system CSX bc
4040 GE B40-8 1989 operating Currently CSX 5947 CSX system CSX bc
4042 GE B40-8 1989 operating Currently CSX 5936 CSX system CSX bc
4044 GE B40-8 1989 operating Currently CSX 5948 CSX system CSX bc
4046 GE B40-8 1989 operating Currently CSX 5949 CSX system CSX bc
4048 GE B40-8 1989 operating Currently CSX 5937 CSX system CSX bc
4050 EMD SD70M 1995 operating built new in 1995 as NYSW 4050 I&O Railway Yellowjacket On long-term lease to Indiana & Ohio Rwy
4052 EMD SD70M 1995 operating built new in 1995 as NYSW 4052 I&O Railway Yellowjacket On long-term lease to Indiana & Ohio Rwy
4054 EMD SD70M 1995 operating built new in 1995 as NYSW 4054 I&O Railway Yellowjacket On long-term lease to Indiana & Ohio Rwy

All-Time Diesel Roster Breakdown:

Total - 109 units

Of those 109, today (November 2007):
25 are on the NYSW roster. (15 operating)
3 are leased out (SD70M's)
54 still exist, but not on the current NYSW roster.
29 are confirmed scrapped.
Only one is "status unknown"

Current Susquehanna Roster:
(more detail on each locomotive is above)

Notes:

*Note 1
4010 - 4048, twenty B40-8's, were built in 1989 and financed with help from CSX to operate the stack trains.
(Susquehanna was temporarily operating the D&H, and the stack trains were run over the Conrail southern tier main via D&H traffic rights)
With the loss of the stack trains when CP took over the D&H, these 20 units were returned to CSX around 1991.
4010 - 4048 only operated with NYSW a few short years between 1989 and 1991.

The other four B40-8's 4002, 4004, 4006 and 4008, operated with NYSW all through the 1990's and into the 21st
century, until being sold to the P&W in 2004 and 2005.

4006 (now P&W 4003) was in NYSW yellowjacket paint in July 2006, was repainted into P&W scheme by December 2006.
was the last yellowjacket B40-8.

*Note 2
231:1 and 233:1 were NYSW's first road diesels.
They were both requisitioned by the US govt and sent overseas for WWII.
(All 1941 Alco RS1 production was shipped overseas by the US govt for the war effort,
and all were rebuilt into RSD-1 types, with 6-axle trucks, including our two NYSW units)

They were replaced by 231(2) and 233(2) in 1943.

231:1 survives!
she went overseas in WWII along with sister 233:1, both converted to RSD1's (6-axle trucks)
231:1 returned to the USA after the war..her history is:
originally NYSW RS1 231:1 - then US Army 8000 - then to U.S. Navy 65-00575, then to Texas Industries 8000; Donated to the Age of Steam Museum in Dallas, Texas.
the "Age of Steam Museum" in Dallas is now called the "Museum of the American Railroad"

233:1 - Alaska RSD1 1085 - Alaska 1057 - US Army 8001 - nee NYSW 233:1 - scrapped 1965-67

see this page for more info on the WWII RSD's, including our two Susquehanna units.

*Note 3
Russian 2-10-0 notes.
2492 was the last decopod to operate, last day of operation - October 2, 1947
2454, 2472, 2481, and 2484 were returned to the Erie and sold, 2/4/1943, to Seaboard Air Line.
2435 and 2492 sold for scrap in september 1948, last two operating Russians.

*Note 4
Whitcombs 150 and 151, and GE 45 tonner 200,
all switched the Edgewater Seatrain operation.
200 replaced the two whitcombs in 1958.
200 was then sold to a mining operation in Quebec (Quebec Iron & Titanium) when the edgewater facility was shutdown. (year?)
200 was bought new in 1958, and survives today as Quebec Iron & Titanium #24
150 is preserved, the current fate of 151 is still unknown.

*Note 5
The eight Cartier Alcos and MLWs first arrived in Cohocton, NY in late 2002.
They sat there through all of 2003,
and in October 2004, the first unit arrived on the Susquehanna.
By August 2005 all eight were on the Susquehanna.
Click Herefor the complete Cartier unit timeline on NY Alcos

The Cartier units operated with NYSW from 2004-2007, and in 2007 all eight were sold by NYSW to leasing companys RRPX and Alco-C,
who then leased them to the Livonia, Avon & Lakeville railroad.

LINKS

Roster sources:
The Diesel Shop - NYSW Roster
New York Alcos
http://206.225.93.88/alco/DISP3485-99.html
Joshua Blay's NYSW SD45 photo roster.l
<www.railfanusa.com/rosters/shortlines-richadams06-10.xls>
NYSW Roster from the "Unofficial NYSW Railfan page"
NYSW Alco RS1 discussion

Other relevant links:
New York Susquehanna & Western Railway - Official Site
New York Susquehanna & Western Technical & Historical Society
The New Unofficial New York Susquehanna & Western Railfan Page

Susquehanna Forum on Railroad.net
Susquehanna Forum on Railfan.net
Susquehanna Forum on Yahoo
Railway Preservation News

Susquehanna Photos on George Ellwood's fallenflags.org
Susquehanna Photos on railpictures.net
Susquehanna Photos on NERAIL North American Photography Archive
Susquehanna Photos on rrpicturearchives.net
CSX Photo Archives -B40-8

US Army RSD1 roster

CVSR - Cuyahoga Valley Scenic Railroad
DO - Delaware Otsego System
ICE = Iowa Chicago & Eastern
P&W = Providence & Worcester
R&S - Roberval & Saguenay
RLW - Rome Locomotive Works

1941 - First diesels arrive on the NYSW in the form of Alco S2 pair 202 & 204.

1942 - First road diesels arrive, Alco RS1's. (S2's and RS1's were all built new for NYSW by Alco)

1947 (end of steam) to 1962 - NYSW operates with a 22-unit all-Alco fleet, six Alco S2 switchers and sixteen Alco RS1 road switchers.

1962 - First new locomotives since the 1940's arrive, GP18 1800, 1802 and1804. (still on the roster, and operating, 45 years later in 2007!)

1960's and 1970's - Susquehanna operates with only the three GP18's and a few remaining S2's and RS1's.

1983 - Susquehanna buys the famous Alco C430's - 3000, 3002, 3004, 3006, and 3008
All five were originally New York Central units, (then PC, then Conrail) and came to NYSW from Conrail.

1986 - The Susquehanna SD45 fleet arrives, they are 1971-vintage locos bought from Burlington Northern.
Twelve operating SD45's (from BN) plus one parts unit (from NS)...in 2007 only three remain on the roster.

Also arriving with the SD45's are two F45 cowl units, also from BN, they become 3636 and 3638.

1989 - the GE B40-8 fleet arrives, new from GE. 24 units, to power the NYSW stack trains between Buffalo & Binghamton on the Southern Tier Main.
The first brand new units on the roster since the GP18's of 1962.
Twenty of the 24 were returned to CSX in 1991, only two years afer they arrived. (CSX helped finance them)
The other four remained on the roster until 2004/2005.

1995 - Susquehanna buys three EMD SD70m units, new from EMD, SD70m 4050, 4052and 4054.
around 2001 NYSW began leasing these units out to other railroads, today (2007) they are on lease to the Indiana & Ohio Railway.

19**??**- some SD45's and one F45 sold to Montana Rail Link.

1995 - The two E-units arrive, E9 2400 and 2402


May 2001 - the last two Alco C430's on the roster, 3000 & 3006, are sold to the Livonia, Avon and Lakeville and depart from Binghamton.
(the other three were already scrapped by this time.)

For the first time since railroads have existed, there are no Alco locomotives in Binghamton, NY!
Binghamton will remain Alco-free for three years, until the Cartier units arrive.


November 2002 - The Tunnel Motors arrive! Four of them, they become NYSW 3010, 3012, 3014, 3016.


Summer 2003 - SD40T-2's3012and 3016 are repainted into Yellowjacket colors, first of the four tunnel motors repainted.


2004

April 2004 - B40-84002sold to the P&W
April 2004 - B40-84004sold to the P&W

July 2004 - GP181800is rebuilt and returns to service.

August 23, 2004 - SD45 3618 is returned to service in Utica.

October 2004 - The Eight ex-Cartier Alcos-MLW's begin to arrive! click herefor the complete Cartier unit timeline.

October 17, 2004. - first report of one of the ex-Cartier units in Binghamton. number 78.

November, 2004 - SD45 3634 is returned to service in Utica.

November 21, 2004. ex-Cartier 45 spotted in Binghamton, second Cartier unit to arrive.

December 20, 2004 - ex-Cartier 41, 45 and 78 are all confirmed with Susquehanna, only 78 is operating.

sometime in 2004 - SD45 3612donates her nose to BDLX GP40 1355 (later to become NYSW 3042)
and her crankshaft to F45 3636, 3612 is then scrapped in Utica. :(
leaving only three SD45's on the roster - 3614, 3618, 3634.

sometime in 2004 - SD40-2 3018, SD40 3020 and SD40 3022 are bought.


2005

January 20, 2005. ex-Cartier 47 and 77 reported on NYSW property. that makes five!

As of February 2005, Five of the ex-Cartier units are with the Susquehanna in Binghamton, 41,45,47,77,78
and three remain in Cohocton. 43,75,85.

February 2005 - B40-84008 sold to the P&W
September 2005 - B40-8 4006 sold to the P&W - this was the last of the B40-8's from 1989 on the NYSW roster.

April 16, 2005
three of the Cartier units, 41,47,78, make a run on the CSX mainline between Utica and Buffalo!
they did it again May 1 and 2, 2005
they sat outlawed for 2 days near Batavia.

On June 3, 2005,
the sixth ex-Cartier unit, #43 left Cohocton and was interchanged with NS at Gang Mills.
That leaves only75and 85 still in Cohocton as of June 5, 2005.
the other 6 units are with the Susquehanna.
3 of the units are confirmed operating, 41,47,78.
43, 45 and77are with the Susquehanna, but have not been confirmed operating
yet as of June 5, 2005.

June 4, 2005
Rumours have been going around that the Susquehanna plans to buy the ex-Cartier units, re-number them,
and possibly repaint them into NYSW yellow & black!!
(although repainting is probably just a rumour..it could happen, but is unlikely for awhile)

June 4, 2005
45 was reported outside the Utica shop numbured on the cab as NYSW 6366.
First ex-Cartier renumbured into the NYSW number scheme.
but still wearing the original Cartier colors.
She was being load tested, operating, nearly ready for service.

June 6, 2005
Cartier 43confirmed operating.
77 was reported possibly operating a few months ago, that was false, she has not yet been operating.

It has been reported in past months that ex-Cartier 75 and 85 may be of interest to the WNYP.
but it has also been rumoured that WNYP doesnt want them, and they will also go to
the Susquehanna..which way is true isnt certain yet.
stay tuned....

August 1, 2005
2 of the ex-Cartier units were briefly renumbured in the 6300 series. and are now in the 3600 series.
Cartier 45 was the first renumbured, to 6366, photographic proof of renumbured 6366 taken on June 4, 2005.
On July 30, the unit was spotted renumbured a second time, this time to3666.
So this unit went from Cartier 45 to NYSW 6366 to NYSW 3666. hopefully settled down now.
Cartier 43 was very briefly renumbured to 6370..perhaps only a few weeks in July 2005. by late July she was renumbured to 3670.
this unit went from Cartier 43 to NYSW 6370 to NYSW 3670.

Current ex-Cartier unit numbering status as of August 1, 2005:

41 - still #41, operating with NYSW
3670 - was briefly numbured 6370, perhaps only a few weeks in July,
was Cartier 43, operating with NYSW
3666 - was numbured 6366 for approx 2 months, June and July
was Cartier 45, operating with NYSW
47 - still #47, operating with NYSW
75 - still in Cohocton, not operating.
77 - with NYSW, but has not operated yet.
78 - still #78, operating with NYSW.
85 - still in Cohocton, not operating.

five of the eight are operating!
three still await a return to service.

August 19, 2005

The final two ex-Cartier units that remained in Cohocton, 75 and 85, arrived in Binghamton on 8-17-05.
they were renumbured to NYSW 3672 and 3674 before they left Cohocton.
that makes it official! all EIGHT of the "things" are now with Susquehanna!
as of 8-19-05, it isnt clear if 3672 and 3674 are operating yet.
The units were towed to Binghamton, not operating.
They never actually operated as SIXX 75 or RRPX 85,
they had those numbers "on paper", but were never physically lettered with those reporting marks and numbers,
they recieved their NYSW numbers before they left Cohocton.

September 19, 2005
M636 3672 first reported operating in binghamton.

October 10, 2005
7 of the 8 ex-Cartier units are now operating.
Only 77 is not operating, has freeze damage, still OOS in Utica.

5 of the units have been given their NYSW numbers.

3660 - 78, unrenumbured
3662 - 77, unrenumbured, only unit still OOS.
3664 - 41.
3666 - 45
3668 - 47, unrenumbured.
3670 - 43
3672 - 75
3674 - 85

above list accurate as of 10/10/05

December 31, 2005

final update for 2005!
7 of the 8 Cartier units are operating, and all 7 operating units have been renumbured.
Only 77 remains unrenumbured, and remains OOS.

3660 - 78,
3662 - 77, unrenumbured, only unit still OOS.
3664 - 41.
3666 - 45
3668 - 47,
3670 - 43
3672 - 75
3674 - 85


2006

January 2006 - F45 3636 returns to service, repaired at Utica.

April 2006 - SD40T-23012arrives in Dansville for rebuilding, the first of the NYSW Dansville rebuilds. was already in yellowjacket paint, so not repainted there.

June 2006 - SD40T-23012is back in service.

June 14, 2006
got a report from our intrepid Binghamton reporter Andy B. that
the big Susquehanna Alcos/MLWs arent doing well,
and some are currently OOS..although they might still return to service.
At the beginning of 2006 all 7 (of 8) of the Cartier units were operating,
(except for 77, which never operated with NYSW and has apparently become the parts unit.)
As of June 14, only 3664, 3672 and 3674 are operating.
although hopefully the four dead units may return to service.
3664 - operating
3670 - OOS
3666 - OOS
3668 - OOS
3672 - operating
77 - parts unit
3660 - OOS
3674 - operating

July 05, 2006 - SD40-23018arrives in Dansville for rebuilding.
July 05, 2006 - SD40 3022 arrives in Dansville for rebuilding.
July 27, 2006 - SD45 3614 arrives in Dansville for rebuilding
July XX,2006 - SD453618arrives in Dansville for rebuilding.

July 29, 2006 - M636 3668 is spotted back in service.

????, 2006 - SD40T-2 3010 arrives in Dansville for rebuilding.
????, 2006 - SD45 3634 arrives in Dansville for rebuilding.

Summer 2006 - GP403042is purchased from BDLX.

September 10, 2006 - SD45 3618 returns to service from Dansville, was not repainted at Dansville. (was already in yellowjacket paint)
September 10, 2006 - SW9 120 goes to Dansville and is sold to AMPI to become their shop switcher. - off the NYSW roster September 2006.

October 9, 2006 - SD40T-2 3010 returns to service from Dansville, unit was repainted at Dansville into NYSW yellowjacket scheme from SP bloodynose scheme.

October 2006 - M6363672broke down on the road, and was set off on a siding at Warwick.
Unit broke down while on the move, and was dragged, creating a flat spot on one set of wheels.
Axle changed out, and unit was towed to Little Ferry on or around November 18, 2006.

November 2006 - E92400sold to Larry's Truck and Electric, McDonald, Ohio.
November 2006 - E9 2402 sold to Larry's Truck and Electric, McDonald, Ohio.

December 2006 - SD40-23018returns to service from Dansville, nose chopped and repainted at Dansville, into yellowjacket scheme from N&W black.
December 2006 - SD40 3022 returns to service from Dansville, nose chopped and repainted at Dansville, into yellowjacket scheme from N&W black. now classed as a SD40-2

December 2006 - GP382012returns to service after a time OOS in Utica.


2007

Snapshot of the Susquehanna Roster at the beginning of 2007:

click **here**for the January 2007 Roster table.

35 units on the Roster in January 2007

Susquehanna Utica Main (originally DL&W) is OOS between Chenengo Forks and Sherburne, due to flooding in June 2006. see map here.
The line will likely be abandoned and not rebuilt.

January 2007 - SD453634returns to service from Dansville, repainted into new yellowjacket scheme from previous yellowjacket scheme, now classed as a SD45-2.

March 2007 - U23B2302joins the NYSW roster, purchased from BDLX (formerly BDLX 2208 and P&W 2208) - still wearing the P&W scheme in early 2007.
March 2007 - U23B2304joins the NYSW roster, former P&W 2208 - still wearing the P&W scheme in early 2007.
both originally Conrail units, and among the very last U-boats built. built new for Conrail in May 1977. Units had their trucks changed at some point
from the original AAR-B trucks, to the FB2 trucks the units are currently wearing.

March 2007 - SD40T-2's3014and 3016 head to Dansville for rebuilding.

May 2007 - Confirmed that Alco C636 "SIXX 77" has actually been officially NYSW 3662 "on paper" all along.
and owned by the NYSW, same as the other Cartier units.
However it has never operated as, or been renumbured as, NYSW 3662. It's still OOS and has never operated with NYSW, it's a parts unit in Utica.

May 8, 2007 - M6363666spotted back in service. she was given new dynamic brakes from a GE dash-7 or dash-8, and a new computer.

May 14, 2007 - F453636reported OOS with a blown traction motor.

July 20 2007 - SD40T-2's3014 and 3016 reported back in operation from Dansville.
3014 was repainted at Dansville from its SP Bloody nose scheme into NYSW yellowjacket colors. All four tunnel motors are now yellowjackets.
Only SD45 3614 in Dansville at this time..reports say she is too far gone, and likely will never be back in operation.

Summer 2007 -AllEIGHTof the Cartier units are sold and leave the NYSW roster!
Sold/Leased to the Livonia, Avon & Lakeville, for use on the new WNY&P base out of Olean, NY.
Check the NY Alcos page for the continuing saga and timelineon the Cartiers.
No one is sure when the last Cartier unit operated with the Susquehanna, but it was sometime in June or July.
It seems Susquehanna's last great Alco era is over.

August 2007 - The eight NYSW Cartier units are gathering in small herds, hopefully to move soon to the LAL!
5 units are in Binghamton, 3664, 3666, 3668, 3670, and 3672
and 3 in Syracuse. 3660, 3662, and 3674.

August 4, 2007 - Susquehanna clears out units from the Utica shop, moving them over to Syracuse, including three Cartier units.
They then move down to Binghamton.

August 8, 2007 - All Eight Cartier units gathered together in Binghamton, none operating.

August 9, 2007 - NYSW founder and CEO Walter Rich passes away.

August 18, 2007 - The first three Cartier units arrive in Cohocton, NY - 3664, 3666 and 3668

September 14, 2007 - Two more arrive in Cohocton, 3670 and 3674

September 19, 2007 - Two more, 3660 and 77. Now 7 of the 8 Cartier units are back in Cohocton, after being with the Susquehanna 2-3 years.
Only 3672 remains in Binghamton.

September 27, 2007 - NYSW finally confirms the rumour that the Utica shop will be closing as of 12/15/07.

October 4, 2007 - GP20's 2062 & 2064 reported OOS in Binghamton.
B23-7 2300 also reported OOS.

October 5, 2007 - GP18 1804 - currently OOS Binghamton
GP20 2062 - currently OOS Binghamton
GP20 2064 - currently OOS Binghamton
GP38 2012 - currently OOS Binghamton
GP40 3042 - currently OOS Utica
B23-7 2300 - currently OOS Utica
SD45 3614 - currently OOS Dansville

27 total units on the roster,
7 OOS
17 operating on NYSW system
3 leased out to the Indiana & Ohio (the SD70's)
20 total operating units (including the SD70's)

October 6, 2007 - Former NYSW 3666 is renumbured and is back in service as WNYP 636.
she leaves Cohocton for her new assignment in Olean.
First of the 8 Cartier units to return to service with WNYP.

October 9, 2007 - GP20 2066 is listed dead in Binghamton.
For the first time, all three GP20's are dead.. :(

October 12, 2007 - NW2 116 (the unit in O&W paint) is off the NYSW roster.
as is SD45 3614, which remains a parts unit in Dansville, never to return to service.
The SD45 fleet falls by one more, down to two units remaining.

November 8, 2007 - The last of the Cartier units, M636 3672, arrives in Cohocton.
Binghamton is now 100% Alco-free again. :(


Scot Lawrence
Rochester, NY
Page started December 2006

Last updated November 15, 2007

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