Susquehanna Railway Roster and Survivors. (original) (raw)
Compiling an "all-time" roster for most railroads, especially large railroads that began in the 19th century, is very difficult. For many railroads, such as the New York Central, its nearly impossible to accurately list EVERY locomotive ever owned by the company. But the NYSW is probably just small enough that an accurate all-time roster shouldnt be too difficult to determine. hopefully! The steam era of the NYSW is complicated and confusing, mainly due to the Erie railroad control between the years 1898 and 1940. But if we divide up the NYSW steam era into it's three clear divisions, it might be managable.. Steam era #1 - Beginning of the NYSW to Erie control - 1881 to 1898. Steam era #2 - The Erie Years - 1898 - 1940. Steam era #3 - Independance to "end of steam" - 1940 - 1947. The following steam roster data is compiled from four different books: The New York Susquehanna & Western Railroad. - by Robert E. Mohowski Erie Power - by Al Stauffer Susquehanna - by John Krause and Ed Crist. The History of the New York Susquehanna & Western Railroad - by Walter Arndt Lucas, published by the Railroadians of America in 1939 and reprinted and updated in 1980. there are some roster discrepncies between the books! when books disagree, I am going with the newest book (Mohowski) assuming the latest data is the correct data, but this may or may not be a correct assumption! ;) There are also two other NYSW books which I do not yet have in my collection: Susquehanna � from Shortlines to Stackpacks - by Ken Karlewicz and Scott Hartley New York Susquehanna & Western, In Color. - Morning Sun Books. And as always, I recieve lots of help on these lists from the great railfans and historians at www.railroad.net, www.railfan.net and www.rypn.org. (see links below) thanks! |
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Susquehanna Steam Locomotives:
Steam Era #1 - 1881-1898 "Prior to Erie Control, Susquehanna operated with 87 Locomotives" - Mohowski nearly all of these 87 locomotives were of the 4-4-0 and 2-6-0 type. Even though the Susquehanna was not fully an Erie subsiderary until 1898, NYSW locomotives were ordered in "sub sets" of Erie locomotive orders before then, With the same specifications as the Erie engines, but lettered "Susquehanna" on the tender, and given an independent NYSW 2-digit number series. 4-4-0 Type - class? Number in class? Wheel arr road number class builder/date retired/scrapped notes photo 4-4-0 12 ? 2-6-0 Type Class F25 - 22 locomotives, all 22 in the class built for NYSW - Rogers 1881-1889, numbers 18-42, but not inclusive, there were gaps in the number series. Class F26 - 7 locos built for Erie, Numbers 45-51,Rogers, 1892 & 1893, 4 of the 7 assigned to NYSW.(which four were NYSW is currently unknown) Class F27 - 14 locos built for the Erie, Numbers 52-65, Rogers 1894-1897, 12 of 14 assigned to NYSW.(which 12 were NYSW is currently unknown) all locos in this class were Camelbacks Class F28 - Rogers 1894-1895. Number of NYSW locos in this class currently unknown. - all data from Stauffer 39 of the 87 pre-Erie NYSW locos can be confirmed as 4-6-0's..based on data so far. Wheel arr road number class builder/date retired/scrapped notes photo 2-6-0 49 F27 Rogers 1894-1897 camelback 2-6-0 57 F27 Rogers 1894-1897 camelback 2-6-0 63 2-6-0 65 2-6-0 77 Steam Era #2 -The Erie Years - 1898 - 1940 The Erie fully controlled the NYSW during these years, but the NYSW had its own locomotives lettered "Susquehanna" and NYSW locos also had an independant number series from the Erie, NYSW locos generally had 2-digit road numbers, (except for the Russians) while Erie locos had 4-digit numbers. This is going to be the most difficult era to straighten out when it comes to what locos were actually assigned to the NYSW..it�s quite nebulous because of the Erie control. For the purposes of this webpage, I am going to include any locomotive that was ever lettered "Susquehanna" on the tender, regardless of if it was leased or owned. The following is the best I can do so far for a complete NYSW roster for the years 1898-1940, it includes the 1905 Susquehanna Roster from the 1939 Walter Arndt Lucas book. Which shows a mix of original NYSW locos, plus some new ones from the Erie. Class names are Erie classes, not the original NYSW classes. In addition to the 1905 roster, other locos that were known to be on the roster before 1940 are below. A total of xx locos are on this 1898-1940 roster, however not all operated at the same time! "The greatest number of locomotives owned at any one time by the NYS&W was 101. This number was reached in 1911 and continued until 1916, finally diminishing to the insignificant two owned in 1938." -Lucas, 1939. "In 1920, 92 locomotives were in use on The Susquehanna" - Mohowski Wheel arr road number class builder/date retired/scrapped notes photo 4-6-0 25 G-odd Rogers, 1893 named "Phillip T. Nixon" 4-6-0 26 4-6-0 27 4-6-0 29 4-6-0 30 orig Erie 899, retired 1938
4-6-0 31 4-6-0 32
4-6-0 33 4-6-0 34 Baldwin, 1891 orig Erie 289/975/1893, retired 1938
4-6-0 35 scrapped 1929 4-6-0 36 4-6-0 37 4-6-0 38 2-10-0 ???? J2 16 of the 75 Erie Russians assigned to NYSW before 1940 (see below) Steam Era #3 -Independence to "end of steam" - 1940-1947 The NYSW gained it's independence from the Erie in 1940. Between 1940 and 1947, NYSW leased/owned a total of 31 Steam Locomotives in four wheel arrangements: Five 0-6-0 Eight 4-6-0 Two 4-6-2 (but we have photos of FOUR!..perhaps renumburing? Or were there were actually four? Or..two were "Erie Years" pre-1940, and twp were Post-Erie) Sixteen 2-10-0 (were they the SAME sixteen from pre-1940? Unknown..) This era is more straight-forward and well documented, we should be able to figure it out with accuracy. Wheel arr road number class builder/date retired/scrapped notes photo 0-6-0 69 B-5
0-6-0 75 B-5
0-6-0 101 B-6 Erie Meadville-1912 0-6-0 104 B-6 Erie Meadville-1912 0-6-0 107 B-6 Erie Meadville-1912
4-6-0 953 G-15b Baldwin 1903/1904 Purchased from Erie - 12-1-1944 4-6-0 960 G-15b Baldwin 1903/1904 . leased, never purchased 4-6-0 961 G-15b Baldwin 1903/1904 leased, never purchased
4-6-0 963 G-15a Baldwin 1903/1904 Purchased from Erie - 12-1-1944 4-6-0 966 G-15a Baldwin 1903/1904 leased, never purchased 4-6-0 969 G-15a Baldwin 1903/1904 Purchased from Erie - 12-1-1944
4-6-0 970 G-15a Baldwin 1903/1904 leased, never purchased 4-6-0 972 G-15b Baldwin 1903/1904 leased, never purchased
4-6-2 2451 4-6-2 2514 K1 Purchased from Erie - 9-30-1943
4-6-2 2518 4-6-2 2539 K1 Purchased from Erie - 9-30-1943
2-10-0 2433 J-2 1917 Purchased from Erie - 2-4-1943
2-10-0 2435 J-2 1917 Purchased from Erie - 12-1-1944 2-10-0 2443 J-2 1917 Purchased from Erie - 2-4-1943 2-10-0 2445 J-2 1917 Purchased from Erie - 12-1-1944 2-10-0 2451 J-2 1917 Purchased from Erie - 2-4-1943 2-10-0 2452 J-2 1917 leased, never purchased
2-10-0 2454 J-2 1917 leased, never purchased
2-10-0 2461 J-2 1917 Purchased from Erie - 2-4-1943
2-10-0 2472 J-2 1917 leased, never purchased 2-10-0 2475 J-2 1917 Purchased from Erie - 2-4-1943 2-10-0 2476 J-2 1917 Purchased from Erie - 2-4-1943 2-10-0 2481 J-2 1917 leased, never purchased
2-10-0 2484 J-2 1917 leased, never purchased 2-10-0 2490 J-2 1917 Purchased from Erie - 12-1-1944 2-10-0 2492 J-2 1917 Purchased from Erie - 2-4-1943 2-10-0 2495 J-2 1917 see *note3 Purchased from Erie - 2-4-1943
Numbers inREDindicate that specific locomotive is documented, with a photograph, as having been lettered for the Susquehanna. Sadly, ALL steam locomotives listed above have been scrapped. The current Susquehanna 2-8-2 #142 was built in 1989 in China. |
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The Susquehanna Motor Cars:
| Photo | Road No. | Model | Status | Heritage | Location | Notes | | |
| ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- | --------------- | --------------- | --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- | ------------------------------------------------------------------ | ------------------------------------------------------- | -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- | | |
| | 100 | Inspection car | scrapped | built by Buda, new in 1940 for NYSW. sold early 60's to Liberia. | | 4-wheel inspection car, not a revenue vehicle. | | | |
| | 1001 | ACF MotoRailer | scrapped | Built new for NYSW - 1940 | | | | | |
| | 1002 | ACF MotoRailer | scrapped | Built new for NYSW - 1940 | | | | |
| | 1003 | ACF MotoRailer | scrapped | Originally Illinois Central 131, built 1940, bought by NYSW in 1943 | | | | | |
| | 1004 | ACF MotoRailer | scrapped | Originally Illinois Central 130, built 1940, bought by NYSW in 1943 | | | | | |
| | 1005 | ACF MotoRailer | scrapped | Originally Illinois Central 140, built 1941, bought by NYSW in 1947 | | | | | |
| | 1006 | ACF MotoRailer | scrapped | Originally Illinois Central 141, built 1941, bought by NYSW in 1947 | | MotoRailers operated 1940-1949 | | | |
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| 3001 | Brill model 250 | ??? | Original B&M 171, built 1926, bought by NYSW in 1940 | | 3001 and 3002 were sold to Cuba in 1949..dispo unknown. | | |
| | 3002 | Brill model 250 | ??? | original Cumberland & Pennsylvania , bought by NYSW in 1942 | | 3001 and 3002 were sold to Cuba in 1949..dispo unknown. | | | |
| | 5011 | EMD | ??? | built 1930 - probably *not* painted and lettered for NYSW..(lettered Erie) | | | | | |
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| 5012 | EMD | preserved | built 1930 - painted and lettered for NYSW | Ohio | future uncertain - see this link. | | |
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| M1 | Budd RDC | preserved | ex-NJTR 5196 - 558 - NJDOT 558 - CNJ 558 - nee NYS&W M1 (blt 1950) | Butler, NJ. | owned by URHS, leased to NYSWTHS. | | |
| | M2 | Budd RDC | preserved | ex-NJTR 5197 - 559 - NJDOT 559 - CNJ 559 - nee NYS&W M2 (blt 1950) | Butler, NJ | owned by the NYSWTHS. | | | |
| | M3 | Budd RDC | operating | Ex-Kasten Railcar, N.J. Dept. of Transportation 5109, CNJ 560, nee-NYS&W M-3 (blt 1950) | | At the Cuyahoga Valley Scenic Railroad | | | |
| M4 | Budd RDC | preserved | ex-NJTR 5199 - 560 - NJDOT 560 - CNJ 560 - nee NYS&W M4 (blt 1950) | Butler, NJ | Privately owned, kept with NYSWTHS collection. | | | |
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| M5 | Budd RDC | Operating | ex-MNCR 18 - AMTK 18 - PC 68 - nee NH 23 (blt 1952) | Syracuse | | | |
| | M6 | Budd RDC | ??? | ex-MNCR 11 - AMTK 11 - PC 37 - nee NH 37 (blt 1953) | | | | | |
| | M7 | Budd RDC | Operating | ex-MNCR 43 - PC 43 - nee NH 43 (blt 1953) | Syracuse | | | | |
| | M8 | Budd RDC | Operating | ex-MNCR 65 - PC 65 - nee NYC M465 (blt 1953) | Syracuse | | | | |
Susquehanna Diesel Locomotives:
and surviving locomotives, and all-time diesel roster.
All-Time Diesel Roster Breakdown:
Total - 109 units
Of those 109, today (November 2007):
25 are on the NYSW roster. (15 operating)
3 are leased out (SD70M's)
54 still exist, but not on the current NYSW roster.
29 are confirmed scrapped.
Only one is "status unknown"
Current Susquehanna Roster:
(more detail on each locomotive is above)
Notes:
*Note 1
4010 - 4048, twenty B40-8's, were built in 1989 and financed with help from CSX to operate the stack trains.
(Susquehanna was temporarily operating the D&H, and the stack trains were run over the Conrail southern tier main via D&H traffic rights)
With the loss of the stack trains when CP took over the D&H, these 20 units were returned to CSX around 1991.
4010 - 4048 only operated with NYSW a few short years between 1989 and 1991.
The other four B40-8's 4002, 4004, 4006 and 4008, operated with NYSW all through the 1990's and into the 21st
century, until being sold to the P&W in 2004 and 2005.
4006 (now P&W 4003) was in NYSW yellowjacket paint in July 2006, was repainted into P&W scheme by December 2006.
was the last yellowjacket B40-8.
*Note 2
231:1 and 233:1 were NYSW's first road diesels.
They were both requisitioned by the US govt and sent overseas for WWII.
(All 1941 Alco RS1 production was shipped overseas by the US govt for the war effort,
and all were rebuilt into RSD-1 types, with 6-axle trucks, including our two NYSW units)
They were replaced by 231(2) and 233(2) in 1943.
231:1 survives!
she went overseas in WWII along with sister 233:1, both converted to RSD1's (6-axle trucks)
231:1 returned to the USA after the war..her history is:
originally NYSW RS1 231:1 - then US Army 8000 - then to U.S. Navy 65-00575, then to Texas Industries 8000; Donated to the Age of Steam Museum in Dallas, Texas.
the "Age of Steam Museum" in Dallas is now called the "Museum of the American Railroad"
233:1 - Alaska RSD1 1085 - Alaska 1057 - US Army 8001 - nee NYSW 233:1 - scrapped 1965-67
see this page for more info on the WWII RSD's, including our two Susquehanna units.
*Note 3
Russian 2-10-0 notes.
2492 was the last decopod to operate, last day of operation - October 2, 1947
2454, 2472, 2481, and 2484 were returned to the Erie and sold, 2/4/1943, to Seaboard Air Line.
2435 and 2492 sold for scrap in september 1948, last two operating Russians.
*Note 4
Whitcombs 150 and 151, and GE 45 tonner 200,
all switched the Edgewater Seatrain operation.
200 replaced the two whitcombs in 1958.
200 was then sold to a mining operation in Quebec (Quebec Iron & Titanium) when the edgewater facility was shutdown. (year?)
200 was bought new in 1958, and survives today as Quebec Iron & Titanium #24
150 is preserved, the current fate of 151 is still unknown.
*Note 5
The eight Cartier Alcos and MLWs first arrived in Cohocton, NY in late 2002.
They sat there through all of 2003,
and in October 2004, the first unit arrived on the Susquehanna.
By August 2005 all eight were on the Susquehanna.
Click Herefor the complete Cartier unit timeline on NY Alcos
The Cartier units operated with NYSW from 2004-2007, and in 2007 all eight were sold by NYSW to leasing companys RRPX and Alco-C,
who then leased them to the Livonia, Avon & Lakeville railroad.
LINKS
Roster sources:
The Diesel Shop - NYSW Roster
New York Alcos
http://206.225.93.88/alco/DISP3485-99.html
Joshua Blay's NYSW SD45 photo roster.l
<www.railfanusa.com/rosters/shortlines-richadams06-10.xls>
NYSW Roster from the "Unofficial NYSW Railfan page"
NYSW Alco RS1 discussion
Other relevant links:
New York Susquehanna & Western Railway - Official Site
New York Susquehanna & Western Technical & Historical Society
The New Unofficial New York Susquehanna & Western Railfan Page
Susquehanna Forum on Railroad.net
Susquehanna Forum on Railfan.net
Susquehanna Forum on Yahoo
Railway Preservation News
Susquehanna Photos on George Ellwood's fallenflags.org
Susquehanna Photos on railpictures.net
Susquehanna Photos on NERAIL North American Photography Archive
Susquehanna Photos on rrpicturearchives.net
CSX Photo Archives -B40-8
CVSR - Cuyahoga Valley Scenic Railroad
DO - Delaware Otsego System
ICE = Iowa Chicago & Eastern
P&W = Providence & Worcester
R&S - Roberval & Saguenay
RLW - Rome Locomotive Works
1941 - First diesels arrive on the NYSW in the form of Alco S2 pair 202 & 204.
1942 - First road diesels arrive, Alco RS1's. (S2's and RS1's were all built new for NYSW by Alco)
1947 (end of steam) to 1962 - NYSW operates with a 22-unit all-Alco fleet, six Alco S2 switchers and sixteen Alco RS1 road switchers.
1962 - First new locomotives since the 1940's arrive, GP18 1800, 1802 and1804. (still on the roster, and operating, 45 years later in 2007!)
1960's and 1970's - Susquehanna operates with only the three GP18's and a few remaining S2's and RS1's.
1983 - Susquehanna buys the famous Alco C430's - 3000, 3002, 3004, 3006, and 3008
All five were originally New York Central units, (then PC, then Conrail) and came to NYSW from Conrail.
1986 - The Susquehanna SD45 fleet arrives, they are 1971-vintage locos bought from Burlington Northern.
Twelve operating SD45's (from BN) plus one parts unit (from NS)...in 2007 only three remain on the roster.
Also arriving with the SD45's are two F45 cowl units, also from BN, they become 3636 and 3638.
1989 - the GE B40-8 fleet arrives, new from GE. 24 units, to power the NYSW stack trains between Buffalo & Binghamton on the Southern Tier Main.
The first brand new units on the roster since the GP18's of 1962.
Twenty of the 24 were returned to CSX in 1991, only two years afer they arrived. (CSX helped finance them)
The other four remained on the roster until 2004/2005.
1995 - Susquehanna buys three EMD SD70m units, new from EMD, SD70m 4050, 4052and 4054.
around 2001 NYSW began leasing these units out to other railroads, today (2007) they are on lease to the Indiana & Ohio Railway.
19**??**- some SD45's and one F45 sold to Montana Rail Link.
1995 - The two E-units arrive, E9 2400 and 2402
May 2001 - the last two Alco C430's on the roster, 3000 & 3006, are sold to the Livonia, Avon and Lakeville and depart from Binghamton.
(the other three were already scrapped by this time.)
For the first time since railroads have existed, there are no Alco locomotives in Binghamton, NY!
Binghamton will remain Alco-free for three years, until the Cartier units arrive.
November 2002 - The Tunnel Motors arrive! Four of them, they become NYSW 3010, 3012, 3014, 3016.
Summer 2003 - SD40T-2's3012and 3016 are repainted into Yellowjacket colors, first of the four tunnel motors repainted.
2004
April 2004 - B40-84002sold to the P&W
April 2004 - B40-84004sold to the P&W
July 2004 - GP181800is rebuilt and returns to service.
August 23, 2004 - SD45 3618 is returned to service in Utica.
October 2004 - The Eight ex-Cartier Alcos-MLW's begin to arrive! click herefor the complete Cartier unit timeline.
October 17, 2004. - first report of one of the ex-Cartier units in Binghamton. number 78.
November, 2004 - SD45 3634 is returned to service in Utica.
November 21, 2004. ex-Cartier 45 spotted in Binghamton, second Cartier unit to arrive.
December 20, 2004 - ex-Cartier 41, 45 and 78 are all confirmed with Susquehanna, only 78 is operating.
sometime in 2004 - SD45 3612donates her nose to BDLX GP40 1355 (later to become NYSW 3042)
and her crankshaft to F45 3636, 3612 is then scrapped in Utica. :(
leaving only three SD45's on the roster - 3614, 3618, 3634.
sometime in 2004 - SD40-2 3018, SD40 3020 and SD40 3022 are bought.
2005
January 20, 2005. ex-Cartier 47 and 77 reported on NYSW property. that makes five!
As of February 2005, Five of the ex-Cartier units are with the Susquehanna in Binghamton, 41,45,47,77,78
and three remain in Cohocton. 43,75,85.
February 2005 - B40-84008 sold to the P&W
September 2005 - B40-8 4006 sold to the P&W - this was the last of the B40-8's from 1989 on the NYSW roster.
April 16, 2005
three of the Cartier units, 41,47,78, make a run on the CSX mainline between Utica and Buffalo!
they did it again May 1 and 2, 2005
they sat outlawed for 2 days near Batavia.
On June 3, 2005,
the sixth ex-Cartier unit, #43 left Cohocton and was interchanged with NS at Gang Mills.
That leaves only75and 85 still in Cohocton as of June 5, 2005.
the other 6 units are with the Susquehanna.
3 of the units are confirmed operating, 41,47,78.
43, 45 and77are with the Susquehanna, but have not been confirmed operating
yet as of June 5, 2005.
June 4, 2005
Rumours have been going around that the Susquehanna plans to buy the ex-Cartier units, re-number them,
and possibly repaint them into NYSW yellow & black!!
(although repainting is probably just a rumour..it could happen, but is unlikely for awhile)
June 4, 2005
45 was reported outside the Utica shop numbured on the cab as NYSW 6366.
First ex-Cartier renumbured into the NYSW number scheme.
but still wearing the original Cartier colors.
She was being load tested, operating, nearly ready for service.
June 6, 2005
Cartier 43confirmed operating.
77 was reported possibly operating a few months ago, that was false, she has not yet been operating.
It has been reported in past months that ex-Cartier 75 and 85 may be of interest to the WNYP.
but it has also been rumoured that WNYP doesnt want them, and they will also go to
the Susquehanna..which way is true isnt certain yet.
stay tuned....
August 1, 2005
2 of the ex-Cartier units were briefly renumbured in the 6300 series. and are now in the 3600 series.
Cartier 45 was the first renumbured, to 6366, photographic proof of renumbured 6366 taken on June 4, 2005.
On July 30, the unit was spotted renumbured a second time, this time to3666.
So this unit went from Cartier 45 to NYSW 6366 to NYSW 3666. hopefully settled down now.
Cartier 43 was very briefly renumbured to 6370..perhaps only a few weeks in July 2005. by late July she was renumbured to 3670.
this unit went from Cartier 43 to NYSW 6370 to NYSW 3670.
Current ex-Cartier unit numbering status as of August 1, 2005:
41 - still #41, operating with NYSW
3670 - was briefly numbured 6370, perhaps only a few weeks in July,
was Cartier 43, operating with NYSW
3666 - was numbured 6366 for approx 2 months, June and July
was Cartier 45, operating with NYSW
47 - still #47, operating with NYSW
75 - still in Cohocton, not operating.
77 - with NYSW, but has not operated yet.
78 - still #78, operating with NYSW.
85 - still in Cohocton, not operating.
five of the eight are operating!
three still await a return to service.
August 19, 2005
The final two ex-Cartier units that remained in Cohocton, 75 and 85, arrived in Binghamton on 8-17-05.
they were renumbured to NYSW 3672 and 3674 before they left Cohocton.
that makes it official! all EIGHT of the "things" are now with Susquehanna!
as of 8-19-05, it isnt clear if 3672 and 3674 are operating yet.
The units were towed to Binghamton, not operating.
They never actually operated as SIXX 75 or RRPX 85,
they had those numbers "on paper", but were never physically lettered with those reporting marks and numbers,
they recieved their NYSW numbers before they left Cohocton.
September 19, 2005
M636 3672 first reported operating in binghamton.
October 10, 2005
7 of the 8 ex-Cartier units are now operating.
Only 77 is not operating, has freeze damage, still OOS in Utica.
5 of the units have been given their NYSW numbers.
3660 - 78, unrenumbured
3662 - 77, unrenumbured, only unit still OOS.
3664 - 41.
3666 - 45
3668 - 47, unrenumbured.
3670 - 43
3672 - 75
3674 - 85
above list accurate as of 10/10/05
December 31, 2005
final update for 2005!
7 of the 8 Cartier units are operating, and all 7 operating units have been renumbured.
Only 77 remains unrenumbured, and remains OOS.
3660 - 78,
3662 - 77, unrenumbured, only unit still OOS.
3664 - 41.
3666 - 45
3668 - 47,
3670 - 43
3672 - 75
3674 - 85
2006
January 2006 - F45 3636 returns to service, repaired at Utica.
April 2006 - SD40T-23012arrives in Dansville for rebuilding, the first of the NYSW Dansville rebuilds. was already in yellowjacket paint, so not repainted there.
June 2006 - SD40T-23012is back in service.
June 14, 2006
got a report from our intrepid Binghamton reporter Andy B. that
the big Susquehanna Alcos/MLWs arent doing well,
and some are currently OOS..although they might still return to service.
At the beginning of 2006 all 7 (of 8) of the Cartier units were operating,
(except for 77, which never operated with NYSW and has apparently become the parts unit.)
As of June 14, only 3664, 3672 and 3674 are operating.
although hopefully the four dead units may return to service.
3664 - operating
3670 - OOS
3666 - OOS
3668 - OOS
3672 - operating
77 - parts unit
3660 - OOS
3674 - operating
July 05, 2006 - SD40-23018arrives in Dansville for rebuilding.
July 05, 2006 - SD40 3022 arrives in Dansville for rebuilding.
July 27, 2006 - SD45 3614 arrives in Dansville for rebuilding
July XX,2006 - SD453618arrives in Dansville for rebuilding.
July 29, 2006 - M636 3668 is spotted back in service.
????, 2006 - SD40T-2 3010 arrives in Dansville for rebuilding.
????, 2006 - SD45 3634 arrives in Dansville for rebuilding.
Summer 2006 - GP403042is purchased from BDLX.
September 10, 2006 - SD45 3618 returns to service from Dansville, was not repainted at Dansville. (was already in yellowjacket paint)
September 10, 2006 - SW9 120 goes to Dansville and is sold to AMPI to become their shop switcher. - off the NYSW roster September 2006.
October 9, 2006 - SD40T-2 3010 returns to service from Dansville, unit was repainted at Dansville into NYSW yellowjacket scheme from SP bloodynose scheme.
October 2006 - M6363672broke down on the road, and was set off on a siding at Warwick.
Unit broke down while on the move, and was dragged, creating a flat spot on one set of wheels.
Axle changed out, and unit was towed to Little Ferry on or around November 18, 2006.
November 2006 - E92400sold to Larry's Truck and Electric, McDonald, Ohio.
November 2006 - E9 2402 sold to Larry's Truck and Electric, McDonald, Ohio.
December 2006 - SD40-23018returns to service from Dansville, nose chopped and repainted at Dansville, into yellowjacket scheme from N&W black.
December 2006 - SD40 3022 returns to service from Dansville, nose chopped and repainted at Dansville, into yellowjacket scheme from N&W black. now classed as a SD40-2
December 2006 - GP382012returns to service after a time OOS in Utica.
2007
Snapshot of the Susquehanna Roster at the beginning of 2007:
click **here**for the January 2007 Roster table.
35 units on the Roster in January 2007
Susquehanna Utica Main (originally DL&W) is OOS between Chenengo Forks and Sherburne, due to flooding in June 2006. see map here.
The line will likely be abandoned and not rebuilt.
January 2007 - SD453634returns to service from Dansville, repainted into new yellowjacket scheme from previous yellowjacket scheme, now classed as a SD45-2.
March 2007 - U23B2302joins the NYSW roster, purchased from BDLX (formerly BDLX 2208 and P&W 2208) - still wearing the P&W scheme in early 2007.
March 2007 - U23B2304joins the NYSW roster, former P&W 2208 - still wearing the P&W scheme in early 2007.
both originally Conrail units, and among the very last U-boats built. built new for Conrail in May 1977. Units had their trucks changed at some point
from the original AAR-B trucks, to the FB2 trucks the units are currently wearing.
March 2007 - SD40T-2's3014and 3016 head to Dansville for rebuilding.
May 2007 - Confirmed that Alco C636 "SIXX 77" has actually been officially NYSW 3662 "on paper" all along.
and owned by the NYSW, same as the other Cartier units.
However it has never operated as, or been renumbured as, NYSW 3662. It's still OOS and has never operated with NYSW, it's a parts unit in Utica.
May 8, 2007 - M6363666spotted back in service. she was given new dynamic brakes from a GE dash-7 or dash-8, and a new computer.
May 14, 2007 - F453636reported OOS with a blown traction motor.
July 20 2007 - SD40T-2's3014 and 3016 reported back in operation from Dansville.
3014 was repainted at Dansville from its SP Bloody nose scheme into NYSW yellowjacket colors. All four tunnel motors are now yellowjackets.
Only SD45 3614 in Dansville at this time..reports say she is too far gone, and likely will never be back in operation.
Summer 2007 -AllEIGHTof the Cartier units are sold and leave the NYSW roster!
Sold/Leased to the Livonia, Avon & Lakeville, for use on the new WNY&P base out of Olean, NY.
Check the NY Alcos page for the continuing saga and timelineon the Cartiers.
No one is sure when the last Cartier unit operated with the Susquehanna, but it was sometime in June or July.
It seems Susquehanna's last great Alco era is over.
August 2007 - The eight NYSW Cartier units are gathering in small herds, hopefully to move soon to the LAL!
5 units are in Binghamton, 3664, 3666, 3668, 3670, and 3672
and 3 in Syracuse. 3660, 3662, and 3674.
August 4, 2007 - Susquehanna clears out units from the Utica shop, moving them over to Syracuse, including three Cartier units.
They then move down to Binghamton.
August 8, 2007 - All Eight Cartier units gathered together in Binghamton, none operating.
August 9, 2007 - NYSW founder and CEO Walter Rich passes away.
August 18, 2007 - The first three Cartier units arrive in Cohocton, NY - 3664, 3666 and 3668
September 14, 2007 - Two more arrive in Cohocton, 3670 and 3674
September 19, 2007 - Two more, 3660 and 77. Now 7 of the 8 Cartier units are back in Cohocton, after being with the Susquehanna 2-3 years.
Only 3672 remains in Binghamton.
September 27, 2007 - NYSW finally confirms the rumour that the Utica shop will be closing as of 12/15/07.
October 4, 2007 - GP20's 2062 & 2064 reported OOS in Binghamton.
B23-7 2300 also reported OOS.
October 5, 2007 - GP18 1804 - currently OOS Binghamton
GP20 2062 - currently OOS Binghamton
GP20 2064 - currently OOS Binghamton
GP38 2012 - currently OOS Binghamton
GP40 3042 - currently OOS Utica
B23-7 2300 - currently OOS Utica
SD45 3614 - currently OOS Dansville
27 total units on the roster,
7 OOS
17 operating on NYSW system
3 leased out to the Indiana & Ohio (the SD70's)
20 total operating units (including the SD70's)
October 6, 2007 - Former NYSW 3666 is renumbured and is back in service as WNYP 636.
she leaves Cohocton for her new assignment in Olean.
First of the 8 Cartier units to return to service with WNYP.
October 9, 2007 - GP20 2066 is listed dead in Binghamton.
For the first time, all three GP20's are dead.. :(
October 12, 2007 - NW2 116 (the unit in O&W paint) is off the NYSW roster.
as is SD45 3614, which remains a parts unit in Dansville, never to return to service.
The SD45 fleet falls by one more, down to two units remaining.
November 8, 2007 - The last of the Cartier units, M636 3672, arrives in Cohocton.
Binghamton is now 100% Alco-free again. :(
Scot Lawrence
Rochester, NY
Page started December 2006
Last updated November 15, 2007