Megyn Kelly on Tucker Carlson: "I don't think he could be bought and paid for. I could get behind a Tucker presidency." (original) (raw)

SHAWN RYAN (HOST): I mean, I want to talk about some solutions at the end, but I don't even, I don't even trust myself to interview any of them anymore after the last — I mean, I interviewed almost everybody in the, not almost —

MEGYN KELLY (GUEST): Candidates?

RYAN: A lot of people — I think it's like nine people that wound up in the administration. Pete [Hegseth] got picked five days after my interview. You see, I — ugh, I just, it's fucking disgusting. And I have friends running.

MEGYN KELLY (GUEST): Well, let me ask you something. Like, I know, you know, you had Tucker on, he's a friend. I don't think he could be bought and paid for. I could get behind a Tucker presidency. He doesn't, he doesn't want to run, but I could totally get behind. I just don't think — I think for him, he's got ideological principles on which he will not bend. And that you really, you have to find somebody who's like that, who can get backed by people with deep pockets who actually don't have an agenda that's different from that person's, you know.

Like Trump, he took $200 million from Miriam Adelson. Well, how did we think that was going to end? You know, I think we took Trump too much at his word on the I'm not going to start anymore wars, especially not Middle East wars, especially not one with Iran. We could be here for the next hour running those soundbites. We were too non-skeptical when the answers were right there. If you looked at who was backing his campaign, the biggest donor, and she — it wasn't just Miriam, there were many who's — you know, he said her loyalty is more to Israel. Why didn't we pay more attention to that? Like, why aren't we blaming ourselves? I don't accept that there's no one we could find who wouldn't be true to the agenda he or she ran on. I am not quite that cynical yet. I'm not quite that black pilled.

RYAN: Well, that's good because I am. But I wasn't even talking about president. I was just, I mean, somebody running for Congress, Senate, whatever, I even think the president, they would just get eaten alive by the machine. But —

KELLY: No, you have plenty of reason to think that.

RYAN: I mean, I think there are maybe is another way out, but it's going to take a lot of organization.

KELLY: The best way out is to shrink government. I mean that would be the greatest way, just to shrink it all down, stop with the, you know, unitary executive, shrink the president's powers. It's happening.

RYAN: It is?

KELLY: You know, Trump has been reduced to executive orders only, he's passed no legislation. He got his One Big Beautiful Bill Act passed. He got the Laken Riley Act passed, and everything he's done with his pen is going to be undone by the next Democrat to take over, even if he got rid of the filibuster. OK, get rid of the filibuster. That's all gonna change as soon as the Democrats take power. All those nonfilibustered bills are just gonna get reversed by the next Democrat, Congress and president. So I, in a way they're all shrinking themselves and how much they matter, which is great. Is there anyone sitting around thinking, if only we can have more government — well, leftist are, no sane person is thinking that.

RYAN: Yeah, I don't know. I don't know what to think anymore. I don't even, I just — I don't even trust my own intuition when it comes to politics because I thought things were going to be so different and I got fucking duped.

KELLY: Nobody knows anything about anything. It's one of the themes of the year. The thing is like the Trump thing is so disappointing because he did seem like he was going to be different.